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House Proceeding 04-16-08 on Apr 16th, 2008 :: 1:02:17 to 1:06:01
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Barney Frank

1:02:07 to 1:02:17( Edit History Discussion )

Barney Frank: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the question is on the amendment as modified offered by the gentleman from massachusetts. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the

Dana Rohrabacher

1:02:17 to 1:02:25( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: opinion of the chair -- mr. frank: mr. speaker, i ask for a recorded vote. the chairman: pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from massachusetts

Dana Rohrabacher

1:02:17 to 1:06:01( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Dana Rohrabacher

Dana Rohrabacher

1:02:25 to 1:02:40( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: wi ll be postponed. it is now in order to consider amendment number 2 printed in house report 110-586. for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? mr. rohrabacher: i have an

Dana Rohrabacher

1:02:40 to 1:02:50( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: amendment at the desk. the clerk: the clerk will report the amendment at the desk. -- report the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. rohrabacher from california. the chairman: pursuant to

Dana Rohrabacher

1:02:50 to 1:03:00( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: the rule, the gentleman from california, mr. rohrabacher, and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. mr. rohrabacher: this amendment

Dana Rohrabacher

1:03:00 to 1:03:10( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: said that the recipient country's government must have a democratically elected government. the reason this is important is very clear. the dictators and cooks and gangsters who rule many third world

Dana Rohrabacher

1:03:10 to 1:03:24( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: nations and developing countries will simply steal more if we give them the chance. those who steal from their people will steal from us. debt relief to dictators is a license to steal.

Dana Rohrabacher

1:03:24 to 1:03:37( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: i understand there are those who believe that we should not set such a high standard of having a democratically elected government as a prerequisite to debt relief. well, if dictators are overthrown,

Dana Rohrabacher

1:03:37 to 1:03:50( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: democratic reformers will need to have time to hold a free election. well, the monetary impact of a short time period in order to have free election organized is minimal. and the number of such

Dana Rohrabacher

1:03:50 to 1:04:01( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: cases are very, very few. but that's the worst-case scenario. the price of debt relief will in fact prevent foot dragging so there will be free elections at a quicker pace. on the other hand,

Dana Rohrabacher

1:04:01 to 1:04:12( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: a standard only requiring a commitment to future and free elections opens the door to large-scale manipulations and backtracking on democratic commitments by dictators or by those holding power

Dana Rohrabacher

1:04:12 to 1:04:26( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: after dictators have been overthrown. give those in power in the third world countries a chance to put off elections and they will do just that. giving them the wrong incentive and opening

Dana Rohrabacher

1:04:26 to 1:04:39( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: up the door to false promises for future elections and giving them the benefit for it enables large-scale theft. this -- the chances of this negative impact on -- of having a lower -- a lower

Dana Rohrabacher

1:04:39 to 1:04:51( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: economic -- a democratic standard is great as compared to the number of minimal case that is will have, if we are just asking true democratic reformers to hold elections before we get debt

Dana Rohrabacher

1:04:51 to 1:05:04( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: forgiveness. we've seen it over and over again in the third world. third world politicians claim they'll hold elections but don't seem to get there. if we don't act to close it, this loophole

Dana Rohrabacher

1:05:04 to 1:05:17( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: will have a huge impact and allow debt relief to governments that have no real intent of instituting democratic reform. and, yes, i have no faith in our state department or this administration

Dana Rohrabacher

1:05:17 to 1:05:30( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: to enforce that rule that if they have -- to see if they're really intent on democracy. if our standard is that words are enough, the tough guys of the world who rule too many countries

Dana Rohrabacher

1:05:30 to 1:05:41( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: will lie and get their hands on the loot with our state partment's approval. surprise, surprise. that's why my amendment is important. we should side with the democratic reformers, not those who simply

Dana Rohrabacher

1:05:41 to 1:05:50( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: use the right words. i urge my colleagues to support this amendment, which makes sense and reserve the balance of my time. the chairman: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman

Dana Rohrabacher

1:05:50 to 1:06:01( Edit History Discussion )

Dana Rohrabacher: from ma massachusetts. mr. frank: mr. chairman, i seek recognition. the chairman: the gentleman is recognized. frank mr. chairman, i know i'm taking the time in opposition. i'm not so much in opposition,

Barney Frank

1:06:01 to 1:06:16( Edit History Discussion )

Barney Frank: but i am about as close to it as anybody we are going to find here so i think i'm qualified. i ag ree very much.h. in a case-by-case basis i think the gentleman from california and i would agree

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