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House Proceeding on Jun 3rd, 2009 :: 2:38:20 to 2:44:35
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David Dreier

2:38:17 to 2:38:37( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: i ask my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to once again support these long overdue bills. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance his time. the gentleman from california. mr. dreier: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume and i ask consent to revise and extend my

David Dreier

2:38:20 to 2:44:35( Edit History Discussion )
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David Dreier

2:38:38 to 2:38:58( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. dreier: let me say how great it is to see you in the chair, mr. speaker. i'd like to appreciate my -- express my appreciatn for mr. cardoza for yielding me the customary 30 minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. dreier: this rule provides for -- a rule for two problematic bills. six indian tribes in the commonwealth of virginia.

David Dreier

2:38:59 to 2:39:20( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: and the lumbee tribe in the state of north carolina. both adopt in an arbitrary and inconsistent recognition process that threatens those tribes who are already federally recognized and up ends the process for future applicants. and this rule provides for an even more problematic process. the issue of tribe recognition,

David Dreier

2:39:21 to 2:39:42( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: like all matters before congress, demands clarity, fairness and transparency. the two underlying bills unfortunateldeliver just the opposite. h.r. 1385 as i said would extend recognition to six virginia tribes rather than requiring that they go through process at the bureau of indiansian affairs.

David Dreier

2:39:43 to 2:40:04( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: these tribes have sought legislative action because they lack the proper documentation to complete the regular administrative process. this is due to the fact and it was correctly pointed out by my california colleague that they've been victims by targeted attacks in the past which resulted in the destruction of many of the very important historical documents

David Dreier

2:40:05 to 2:40:27( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: that would have been necessary. this is a reminder, mr. speaker, of a very, very ugly chapter in our nation's history. and congress should work very carefully to address this issue. while the situation of the virginia tribes is difficult, and i recognize that for the reasons i just stated, we need to consider the overall

David Dreier

2:40:28 to 2:40:48( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: fairness of our actions. for instance, there are currently nine other tribes, nine other tribes that have application processees and are awaiting final determinations. they have done their due diligence and deserve to have their cases addressed in the proper order. while the six tribes covered in

David Dreier

2:40:49 to 2:41:09( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: h.r. 1385 may deserve special dispensation from the normal b.i.a. process, questions have been raised regarding the fairness of penalizing the nine other tribes who fully completed the process and are patiently waiting in line for the determination. the process serves a purpose.

David Dreier

2:41:10 to 2:41:33( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: ensuring the tribal determination is fair, consistent and fully vetted. we need to think very, very carefully, mr. speaker, before upending that regime. h.r. 31 is even more controversial, not least which because the price tag comes to

David Dreier

2:41:34 to 2:41:55( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: $786 million, mr. speaker, or i should say at least $786 million. we know it would cost again at least 3/4 of $1 billion. i say billion because i know the word trillion is used more frequently around here tragically these days. but it would be very, very costly.

David Dreier

2:41:56 to 2:42:16( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: it could balloon to an even larger level of funding. at issue is conflicting membership estimates of the lumbee tribe. the interior department statements it at 40,000. the tribe itself estimates it at 55,000. a difference of nearly 40%. but what's more local north carolina media have reported that some in the tribe intend

David Dreier

2:42:17 to 2:42:38( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: to expand its membership once this bill is enact. they're waiting for federal recognitioand then want to increase their numbers, expanding the cost of this bill even further and pulling resources away from the lg recognized tribes. now, mr. speaker, the lumbee tribe, just like any other independentian tribe, s

David Dreier

2:42:39 to 2:42:59( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: obtain -- indian tribe, should obtain it on their merits. it may indeed deserve recognition, however, the merits are still far from clear. the last several administrations have opposed their application. the obama administration has reversed course but has not offered any explanation as to why. in fact, the administration does not yet have its

David Dreier

2:43:00 to 2:43:22( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: appointees in place at the interior department to even articulate their reasoning. mr. speaker, congress must fully vet all of these issues and act in a clear, comprehensive way that eliminates the current confusion and restores clarity and certainty. and yet inexplickably the rule

David Dreier

2:43:23 to 2:43:43( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: which we're debating right now curtails the ability of members, republicans and democratic members, to offer their endments so that a comprehensive consensus solution could in fact be reached. rather than an open process which would have allowed the house to address many of these issues, the rule for the lumbee

David Dreier

2:43:44 to 2:44:06( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: tribe bill is a closed rule. despite submission of the very thoughtful amendment by mr. shuler. it's in fact a bipartisan amendment. now, he should be allowed to bring his alternative before the house for an up or down vote. it's very sad that i have to stand here as a minority member fighting on behalf of the rights of a majority member of this institution.

David Dreier

2:44:07 to 2:44:27( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: similarly, madam speaker, the ranking member of the agriculture committee, our friend from roanoke, virginia, mr. goode lat, asked for an open -- mr. goodlatte, asked for an open amendment process. now, while two amendments were made in order, an open process would have allowed him to offer all of his amendments and allowed all members to participate. mr. speaker, this bill has

David Dreier

2:44:28 to 2:44:36( Edit History Discussion )

David Dreier: problems but this rule has a bigger problem. as happens all too often with the democratic majority, this debate will be closed rather

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