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House Proceeding 07-21-09 on Jul 21st, 2009 :: 4:03:20 to 4:34:00
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John R. Carter

4:03:17 to 4:03:39( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: charge, who spends the money, and who is responsible for putting us into the situation that we are in. i yield back. mr. carter: to look at this chart that another one of our colleagues prepared. he calls it o.m.i., obama misery index. those of us who have been around

John R. Carter

4:03:20 to 4:34:00( Edit History Discussion )
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John R. Carter

4:03:40 to 4:04:00( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: for a while remember the misery index was first created back during the jimmy carter administration. it was about the misery that was coming upon people by the economic woes of the country. and it's basically a combination of unemployment, that's the loss of jobs, and the accumulation of

John R. Carter

4:04:01 to 4:04:21( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: public debt. now, as my colleague from north carolina pointed out, there seems to be an overwhelming trend in this house to blame everything on the bush administration. so let's look -- let's just assume for the sake of

John R. Carter

4:04:22 to 4:04:44( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: assumption, because remember obama got elected and sworn in as president in the latter part of of january, so we'll just make february the leftover bush stuff. because that's the next month, and i'd say it's a carryover

John R. Carter

4:04:45 to 4:05:07( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: so the misery index was 11.6%. the blue indicating the unemployment numbers and the red indicating the public debt. how much we owe to other people. or to ourselves. in march the next month of the

John R. Carter

4:05:08 to 4:05:30( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: obama administration, we see our unemployment has risen to what looks like about 13% and our public debt has increased by, i don't know, another 10%, something like that. so a 21.7% in march.

John R. Carter

4:05:31 to 4:05:51( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: from 11.6% to 21.7%. april it jumps to 28.0. look at the public debt. look at the unemployment. e unemployment is the huge figure here. they say we wonder why we are seeing where are the jobs? look, wait a minute. here's may.

John R. Carter

4:05:52 to 4:06:13( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: 36.2% misery ind. look at the unemployment figures. they are getting off the page here. and this month, 40.6%. oomi, o.m.i., obama misery index. look at the unemployment figures

John R. Carter

4:06:14 to 4:06:35( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and look at the national public debt. this is just five months of the obama administration. we have gone from a ms. run decks of 11.6 to 40.6. and so somebody says why are you asking the question where are the jobs?

John R. Carter

4:06:36 to 4:06:56( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: well, because unemployment went from 9% looks like about nine, wouldn't you say, right there to 30%, roughly 31% on the index. that's not the percentage of unemployment. but that's the increase.

John R. Carter

4:06:57 to 4:07:18( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: now, there's a real good reason we are asking where are the jobs? i did a telephone town hall tonight and i got to talk to some fine people. junction, t san antonio. it's not in my district. in fact i believe it's in

John R. Carter

4:07:19 to 4:07:39( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: congressman rodriguez's district or -- or it may be in lamar smith's district. it's not in my district. but the lady who was talking to me, her fean was registered in te was calling from junction. how that h telephone town hall is anybody's guess. i don't know. i didn't try to figure it out.

John R. Carter

4:07:40 to 4:08:02( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: but she -- i called a number in my district and i got a lady in junction. you go fige. i don't know how it worked. but the lady had something interesting to say. she said, by some people's analysis we would probably be one ever those rich small businesses that are going to

John R. Carter

4:08:03 to 4:08:27( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: have to pay taxes under this new health care plan. but although we may handle a lot of livestock and a lot of cash temporarily, the reality is i'd say we are in the category of folks that are just barely scratching through the drought to get by.

John R. Carter

4:08:28 to 4:08:48( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: . and as we realize that something we can live on is very meager, along with me and my family and my boys who also in our ranching business with us. we get by on a meager amount. she said, sir, i'm worried th somebody thinks we're rich enough that they're going to put a 1% surtax on our small

John R. Carter

4:08:49 to 4:09:10( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: business. which is a ranch. now, not everybody lives in texas and lives in the southwest and they may hear the word drought and think they understand what drought means but in texas we kn what drought means. because we've lived through a period of time back in the late

John R. Carter

4:09:11 to 4:09:31( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: 1940's and early 1950's that they wrote a book about it, "the time it never rained." and in fact it didn't rain. and cows ate prickly pear cactus and ranchers burned the thorns off the prickly pear cactus so

John R. Carter

4:09:32 to 4:09:52( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: that the cattle would something to eat because there was no grass. and the hard folks that settle in west texas and central texas worked from sun up to sun down and into the night burning what we call burning pear, burning prickly pear so their cattle wouldn't get those thorns in

John R. Carter

4:09:53 to 4:10:15( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: their lip and get infected and they wouldn't get worms and other things that were the blight of the 1950's. until we were able to eradicate that problem. we know what hard times is in texas because we've been in hard times. and right now we're going through a drought. lake travis, which is just about

John R. Carter

4:10:16 to 4:10:36( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: 40 miles where the crow flies from my house is a huge lack. right now it's a pond. we have islands everywhere on it. it's the lowest it's ever been in memory, they tell me. i haven't been out to see it because i'm afraid i'd get too upset looking at it. but the alcra tells us they're in terrible shape for water. that lady luve living out in

John R. Carter

4:10:37 to 4:11:00( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: junction, texas, she's in terrible shape for water. and so she says to me, sir, not only am i worried about them taking my health care plan away from me, making me go on some government plan i don't want to be on, but they're talking about taxing me as if i'm rich when i'm not. i've got a family, my family and

John R. Carter

4:11:01 to 4:11:22( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: my two boys or three boys, is running this ranch operation and we're fighting a drought and we're short on water. and we're losing livestock. and i said, ma'am, i understand. she said, that's not all. what they're doing with the fuel of this country, what they're doing with their c and tax scheme that they've got there, i

John R. Carter

4:11:23 to 4:11:46( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: think that's going to make the cost of my farm fuel and my ranch fuel go up. and i'm worried. we cannot survive our fertilizer going up and our fuel going up, all of which comes from the petroleum industry. we can't afford it. we just can't survive it. and why do they want to do that to us?

John R. Carter

4:11:47 to 4:12:08( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: what did we do to them? i said, ma'am, i hear you. i'm sorry. you know, all my life i've lived under a system that i believe in, i still believe in it. i think rule of law prevail in a

John R. Carter

4:12:09 to 4:12:29( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: constitutional system of government. i think the rule of law is as sacred to democracy and to a republic as the constitution is to that replic and as to the

John R. Carter

4:12:30 to 4:12:53( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: ly book is to the church. and it is imperative to every american that we suppt the rule of law. it should be sacred to us, that says we say this, i think it's the -- i think it is the rotary club, but it may be another one of the clubs that says, before

John R. Carter

4:12:54 to 4:13:15( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: their club, we are a nation of laws, not of men. i think that is extremely important for to us remember as americans. we are a these laws are created by this body and other bodies at the state level. those laws are not to be

John R. Carter

4:13:16 to 4:13:36( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: circumvented and no man, no matter how high a rate, no matter how much of the population votes for him, how many people love him or think he's the greatest -- or her, and think they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, they don't have the right nor the ability nor should we allow them to

John R. Carter

4:13:37 to 4:13:58( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: circumvent our laws because of their programs. it is our american responsibility to uphold the law. r 20 years i served as a judge of the highest trial court in texas at the state level. i did my best to uphold the law.

John R. Carter

4:13:59 to 4:14:20( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: those lawers were written in books and they were passed by the texas legislature and they were passed by the united states congress and we tried our best to uphold those laws. the supreme court and the court of criminal appeals told us, interrupted -- interpreted the laws for us in texas and in the united states. and we as a court tried our best

John R. Carter

4:14:21 to 4:14:42( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: to follow that direction from our court system. because the rule of law has to prevail. i am very concerned and i express this tonight that procedures and rules are as important to an institution as

John R. Carter

4:14:43 to 4:15:03( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: anything else that there is. because they are the standard by which a group of free men and women decided to govern themselves by law. thomas jefferson, a man held in

John R. Carter

4:15:04 to 4:15:28( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: highest regard and at least many democrats call their party, even though he called his party the republican party at the time, but times change, thomas jefferson wrote rules for this house and one of the rules has been repeated by our president of the united

John R. Carter

4:15:29 to 4:15:50( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: states speaker of the house. when she came in and took her oath and told us how this congress was going to operate, she said, we will give -- give this congress every time at least 72 hours to examine a piece of legislation.

John R. Carter

4:15:51 to 4:16:12( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: thomas jefferson said, three days for any piecef legislation before it's voted on, it should be given to both sides for their examination and prermings for debate -- preparation for bate. and that three days did not include saturday and sunday. that's what -- when he wrote the rules for this house, which were

John R. Carter

4:16:13 to 4:16:33( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: followed religiously, i guess you'd say, for years and years and years, decades, that's the tradition of this house. and it has been waived for every major piece of legislation since barack obama's been elected president.

John R. Carter

4:16:34 to 4:16:54( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: as was pointed out ithe last piece of legislation which had by john boehner right here on the throor of this house, they dropped 350 pages of amendments to the cap and tax bill at 2:00 in the morning to be voted on the next day. and that meant that we hasn't

John R. Carter

4:16:55 to 4:17:15( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: seen a completed bill even -- hadn't seen a completed bill even at that point of time, we voted on it the next day. i'm not here to cry about procedures. i play under the rules that their rules committee writes. but i want you to know, when

John R. Carter

4:17:16 to 4:17:37( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: your historical procedures as american people are circumvented by this house consistently every time, you should be concerned about those who do not follow the established rule of law. this should be a concern of the american people. when the president of the united

John R. Carter

4:17:38 to 4:17:58( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: states and his white house friends go strong-arm the automobile companies into a deal that circumvents the laws of this land, there's something wrong.

John R. Carter

4:17:59 to 4:18:21( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and creditors' rights are established laws of this land. and yet the bankruptcy court was perfectly willing to let the parties make an agreement. but the parties were strong-armed by the politicians in the white house, strong-armed

John R. Carter

4:18:22 to 4:18:43( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and threatened to the point that preferred creditors gave up their rights under the law out of fear and the preferred creditors came -- became -- their rights went to the unpreferred creditors, the labor unions.

John R. Carter

4:18:44 to 4:19:06( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and now we have the government motors, we used to call it general motors, that is owned by the feral government and the labor unions. and those people who loaned money as secured creditors years to general motors had to take pennies on the dollar

John R. Carter

4:19:07 to 4:19:27( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: because they werestrong-armed beyond the rule of law. and i'm sorry, that's not right. if we don't stand for anything in this house, if we let our people down on every vote, if we don't try our best to stand up for the rule of law then we

John R. Carter

4:19:28 to 4:19:48( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: ought to be ashamed of ourselves. i don't care what party you're in. i respect my colleagues on the other side of the aisle and in fact many of them stand up and speak out for many of the things that i stand up and speak out for. and i am not saying this as an appointed -- as pointing a finger in terms of politics. let's throw politics out the

John R. Carter

4:19:49 to 4:20:10( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: door right now. let's talk about what our founding fathers intended fors to do if they're to keep this republic tomorrow and that is they expect to us set rules and follow them. they expect us to honor contracts between people. now, you say to yourself, well,

John R. Carter

4:20:11 to 4:20:31( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: sure, we honor ctracts between people, but i don't know about those big corporations. you know, they're so evil, maybe we shouldn't have to respect those people. so if at a time when the country, when the price of oil was $6 a barrel, if the administration says, we need to

John R. Carter

4:20:32 to 4:20:52( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: get some money into this -- niece covers here, we're going to -- could havers here, we're going to sell -- coughers here, we're going to sell some offshore leases,nd we'll give you a good know you're them at $6 a barrel, so oil companies say, ok, we'll buy them and they buy these offshore

John R. Carter

4:20:53 to 4:21:14( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: leases, pay money for them, continue to pay money for them as they -- as the leases progress, and then lo and behold the price of oil goes to $100 a barrel or $80 a barrel and guess what? base they start providing -- producing oil out there and we have people in this house that

John R. Carter

4:21:15 to 4:21:36( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: say, that's an excess profit. although the federal government got what it contracted for. and the oil companies got what they contracted for and we believe in the sanctity of contracts, whether they be between corporations, governments or people. and it's what keeps the glue together to our society.

John R. Carter

4:21:37 to 4:22:00( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and yet we were willing to say we don't care what the contract says, we want it renegotiated and we're going to put economic pressure on you to do it. that's not the way we're supposed to act. we're supposed to hold the contract sacred because in

John R. Carter

4:22:01 to 4:22:21( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: reality what created our nation was a contract, a contract called the constitution of the united states, where the states got together and said, we will surrender our sovereignty in bargain to protect us in our national defense to work out our

John R. Carter

4:22:22 to 4:22:43( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: disputes of commerce and to make this country one nation gathered together from 13 colonies and 13 states. and that contract is sacred. and every contract that comes therefrom is sacred. and if we don't treat it that way, now, if we don't like it, change the law. that's fine.

John R. Carter

4:22:44 to 4:23:04( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: we can do that. but i am concerned when we use the power of political might to strongarm people out of their rights, under the laws of our country. and if the republicans do it i'm going to be just as mad as them

John R. Carter

4:23:05 to 4:23:25( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: as i am about anybody else. it's not a political thing, it's what's right and what's wrong. if we don't have rules. if we don't have things we hold sacred, we are bound for destruction.

John R. Carter

4:23:26 to 4:23:47( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: we've got plenty of issues to keep us busy worrying about our country without trying to change the rules of the game. so i hope, and maybe people think that guy's half crazy standing there talking about that stuff, but i believe in this stuff.

John R. Carter

4:23:48 to 4:24:09( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: i believe passionately in the american people, in the constitution, and in the history of of this country. -- in the history of this country. you can rewrite it all you want to, it is what it is. what makes us noble, what makes us fine, what makes us exceptional is that we are

John R. Carter

4:24:10 to 4:24:31( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: willing to for the good of the nation hold certain things important. and i would say the rule of law is what separates us. i'll tell you a story, i had the opportunity to go with the foreign operations committee down to a very lovely country,

John R. Carter

4:24:32 to 4:24:53( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: nicaragua, in central america, and when i went down there, i grew up in my colleague days i lived with a bunch of ranching boys out in west tacks and visited several of their operations out there. being a native texan we are all kind of caught up in the magic

John R. Carter

4:24:54 to 4:25:14( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: of ranch life. so i learned a little bit about what good looking country looks like and what grass looks like that cattle will eat. and look for how much water's out there that's available for livestock. looked at nicaragua, the part i went to, i thought, man, this is some good looking cattle

John R. Carter

4:25:15 to 4:25:36( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: country. this is -- boy, a fellow could raise a lot of nice cat until this country. there's plenty of water. you could even irrigate it because they got water that's less than 18 feet underneath the ground. you don't drink that water but you could irrigate with it. so i started asking the

John R. Carter

4:25:37 to 4:25:59( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: question, why are these poor folks having such a hard time economically? you know why? because they never quite established the rule of of law. in fact, they don't even have land titles in nicaragua. one of the things that they are trying to do with our foreign aid is somehow establish a

John R. Carter

4:26:00 to 4:26:20( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: method of land titles. a method of saying, you bought it. here's your title. you own it. and you can sell it to the next guy. but instead they have to worry which regime is in power in nicaragua as to whether or not they get to keep their land. so after a while, after 100

John R. Carter

4:26:21 to 4:26:42( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: years of a system like that, people start to not really invest too much in their land because you never kno whose land it's going to be next year. we have the rule of law. we have land titles. we know when we buy our home and we pay for it and it's free and clear and our debts are off of it, we own that piece of ground

John R. Carter

4:26:43 to 4:27:04( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and whatever's on top of it. we could pass it on to our children. it can be part of our accumulated wealth that makes the next generation healthier and richer and more prosperous. they don't have that ability. and yet they got a beautiful place and a potential. what's missing?

John R. Carter

4:27:05 to 4:27:25( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: the rule of law. it's sad. it's sad to think a bunch of nice people who need to make that country work are limited by the fact that men and their political strength are overpowering what they should

John R. Carter

4:27:26 to 4:27:46( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: have which is the rule of law. i do not mean this as any criticism of the country of nicaragua. and i hope it's our goal as americans to try to help them establish the rule of law, especially the rule of land titles. i think it's important. my point is our forefathers gave us that blessing. when

John R. Carter

4:27:47 to 4:28:07( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: sometimes we forget some of of it is right there in -- some of it is right there in that constitutional document we have. i had somebody from dell computer tell me that they -- whathey have to sell is what's in their minds, what they have created from their brains.

John R. Carter

4:28:08 to 4:28:29( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: guess whose country wrote it into their founding document that your intellectual property belongs to you? the united states of america. it's in our constitution. that what you create with your you ha an ownership right in it and you can enforce it in a courtroom.

John R. Carter

4:28:30 to 4:28:50( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: the rest of the world is coming around to that, but what we have been given is so many blessings by forward thinking people in our past. i'm here tonight as we talk about all these issues of the economy and what's going on, i just don't let us forget that

John R. Carter

4:28:51 to 4:29:13( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: this is not a country of men. this is a country of laws. and the way we operate on this floor of this house and the way we operate at the courthouse and the way we operate as human beings is governed by the rule of l. if we ever lose that, we lose

John R. Carter

4:29:14 to 4:29:36( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: our country. we've got lots of issues going on right now. we've got health care. we've got this cap and trade or cap and tax bill that's supposed to be protecting the environment. we've got run away spending. we've got mounds of debt that's

John R. Carter

4:29:37 to 4:29:57( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: mountain up in every direction. the debt figure is unbelievable. all of these things should be dealt with through this body and its democracy and its democratic principles. that's the way it should be dealt with. the rule of law. if we do that, we will he met our obligation to the people who

John R. Carter

4:29:58 to 4:30:18( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: sent us here. and i challenge both sides to let the rule of law rein in. let's -- reign here. let's don't stop debate, let's talk. everybody says we need bipartisanship. how can you have bipartisanship

John R. Carter

4:30:19 to 4:30:39( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: if one side writes a 2,000-page bill and the other side doesn't get to do anything but say yes, i like it, or no, i don't. how in the world is that bipartisan? you know i think our founding fathers really thought you're going to have liberals over here, you are going to have conservatives over here and you're going to try to address an issue and you are going to

John R. Carter

4:30:40 to 4:31:00( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: sit down at a table and talk about what you can and what you can't do and you're going to come up with a solution. i think that's what they thought we were going to do. we are not doi it right now. and i do honestly believe it would work. and i think there's an awful lot

John R. Carter

4:31:01 to 4:31:22( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: of people that sit in this room every day that feel the same way. let's have the courage to do that. let's follow the direction of our forefathers. let's remember our history and let's start talking to each other. instead of imposing our will one group of men and women opposing their will on another group of

John R. Carter

4:31:23 to 4:31:43( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: men and women. i really don't think that's what we intended when this house was created. we like to say this is the greatest deliberative body in the world. it's the cradle of democracy. it's the cradle of freedom. that liberty was born here and

John R. Carter

4:31:44 to 4:32:04( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: thrives here. if liberty is born here and thrives here, it's up to us to continue to keep her breathing and keep her thriving. and i don't believe we do it by ignoring the rules or changing the rules. i believe we do it by working together to come up with

John R. Carter

4:32:05 to 4:32:25( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: solutions. and probably kind o like the good verdict you get in the courtroom, if you give a vdict in theourtroom and both sides are not completely happy, you probably got the best verdict you ever could create. but if you got a verdict that only one side gets everything and the other side gets nothing, it probably wasn't the right thing.

John R. Carter

4:32:26 to 4:32:47( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: nine times out of 10. the best thing to do -- i was always happy if both sides walked out mad at me i figured we did a good job. because at least both sides had some give and take that would happen in the courtroom. that's where we ought to be in here. when it's over with, both sides ought to say, we didn't get all

John R. Carter

4:32:48 to 4:33:08( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: our way but at least we got something done. and we didn't impose the will of man over the will of law over the rule of law. i guess i just felt like preaching this late at night and that's probably enough of all that. i do ask that the people back home, now we are not supposed to address the people back home,

John R. Carter

4:33:09 to 4:33:29( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: but will i say that every man and woman in this house are addressing life changing issues now and will be in the very near future. that the amount of accumulated job loss and debt is getting critical for all of us whether we be in this house or whether we be at home.

John R. Carter

4:33:30 to 4:33:53( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and let's all try to work together to come up with something that will work. back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. under the speaker's announced policy of january 6, 2009, the chair recognizes the gentleman from iowa, mr. b

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