House Proceeding 10-06-09 on Oct 6th, 2009 :: 0:20:40 to 0:24:40
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Barney Frank: up the issue by putt crimes legislation attached on to this bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from missouri. mr. skelton: mr. speaker, i yield three minutes to the the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. frank, who is the distinguished chairman of the financial services committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for

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Speech By: Barney Frank

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Barney Frank: three minutes. mr. frank: mr. speaker, i agree. it makes no more logical sense to add a hate crimes bill to the defense bill than it would to take a bill requiring people to be allowed to use their guns in the national parks to a credit card bill. but that's what the senate did. the senate added a bill dealing with the rights of gun owners in

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Barney Frank: national parks to the credit card bill, with which there was no logical connection. now i wish the senate wouldn't do things like that. i wish a lote of things, but when we are con fronted with the reality of the senate, we have to act. now it is conceivable that you would ask people who are so devoted to the principle of

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Barney Frank: having no illogical attachment that they would oppose it in every case. i must have been in the cloakrm when the republicans rose to denoun the senate for allowing the use of guns in national parks to the credit card bill. that was done. not a single republican objected. indeed, quite to the contrary.

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Barney Frank: they all voted for it, which makes it very clear, the objection is not to the senate adding an unrelated bill because republicans have voted for that time and time and time again. it is an objection to protecting against hate crimes, people who are gay, by sexual or transgender. people say we shouldn't have

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Barney Frank: hate crime laws. i don't remember them trying to repeal the hate crime laws on the books. there is nothing new about a hate crime law or its constitutionality. if you say violence should be vionce, how about somebody having the intellectual integrity to get up and repeal that statute that says someone assaults someone

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Barney Frank: standing next to me, it might be a misdemeanor, but if someone assaults me, a member of congress, it's a federal felony. we have a major distinction. we are protected by special laws. older people, people of religion. they say well, it's a matter of choice. the level of intelligence involved in being gay, lesbian

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Barney Frank: are a matter of choice. people convert to religions, does that mean we shouldn't protect people. and one of the earlier speakers in a total flight from reality, it passed the house and was debated and went through the committee process and passed the house. from time to time, united states

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Barney Frank: senate which has no rules preventing it, adds unrelated bills. if there are members who have consistently opposed that practice, they have the right to oppose it here and say that's the reason. but members who have voted for legislation, which the senate attached to unrelated legislation who claim now to be

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Barney Frank: offended by that practice clearly have no logical or other basis on which to make that claim. there are people who do not think we should add a very vulnerable category, particularly people of transgender to the hate crimes protection. they lost that fight. i would have had it come up again, but it is another example

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Barney Frank: of a very time-tr the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from virginia. mr. forbes: mr. speaker, i continue to scratch my head as i listen to t distinguished the gentleman from massachusetts who argues that just because the leadership of the house and the leadership of the senate have followed the process time and again that the end justifies the means,hat we ought to do it

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Barney Frank: all the time. i would point out to the