House Proceeding 11-16-09 on Nov 16th, 2009 :: 0:21:05 to 0:26:50
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Ted Poe: it is time to putsmart security at work where a place where military power alone just isn't the answer. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: mr. poe from texas. mr. poe: request permission to address the house for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection.

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Speech By: Ted Poe

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Ted Poe: trit, muhammad and four of his terrorist buddies are getting trip to new york city to be tried for their crimes against america. others are being tried in military courts. whare we trying muhammad in federal courts? why don't we treat them all the same?

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Ted Poe: different strokes for different folks? it appears to be so. why are these five special individuals being treated this way and brought to the united states for trial? military tribunals throughout history have always been used to try captured enemies on the battlefield. they have different rules for standards and evidence.

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Ted Poe: and the military courts make differences and they won't use quass collide intelligence material in open court. in military courts and prosecutors have been preparing for 18 mon terrorists in miltary court. now all of that is over and all of that paperwork is going to be turned over to federal

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Ted Poe: prosecutors who know nothing about the case and will start over with their investigation. now, the way i figure it it's been eight years since 9/11 occurred. how long is it going to be before these people are tried? no onenows, because the government is not prepared and they will have to start getting prepared. military tribunals have been

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Ted Poe: created for the purpose that in a time of war, war criminals and people on the battlefield who are captured are tried there. and now we're making some exception. and the reason is, we don't know. we don't know the reason why they're being tried in new york and some of them -- well, they're going to get their military trials.

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Ted Poe: maybe those are lower-ranked terrorists. who knows. no one is talking in the justice department. there is a difference whether he is tried in federal court or military court. let there be no mistake about it, these military courts have the jurisdiction to try these war criminals, but they are giving up their jurisdiction to the justice department. for example, in 1993 in the

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Ted Poe: world trade center and those bombers, prosecutors were required to turn over evidence to defense attorneys that included a large amount of intelligence secret information. those intelligent documents were never suposed to be provided outside of the attorneys for each side. but guess what happened, madam speaker?

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Ted Poe: they were later found in al qaeda caves overseas. so much foresee cressy. we used to have osama bin laden cell phone number and used it to track his movement. it helped us uncover the terrorist network.

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Ted Poe: but during a trial, the extent of our methods of intelligence of tracking the terrorists through using their cel phone numbers was disclosed and not only were they disclosed, the phone records were made public to the whole world. so guess what? terrorists quit using their cell phones and shut them off. now they communicate with each

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Ted Poe: other using different methods. this was the result of trials that took place in federal court. the rules of evidence are different. doesn't anybody know we are at war and the rules of war ought to apply and when we capture these people who are at war with america, we ought to teat them

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Ted Poe: and try them in military tribunals. our anti-terrorist operations depend on see crease si and makes the job harder when the methods they use are publicly sizein open court and doesn't make any sense why we would want to make al te evidence we have obtained against these five terrorists public record.

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Ted Poe: one more example, the 20th hijacker escaped the death hijacker escaped the death penalty during his federal trial and here's the reason why, the court ruled that his participation in the 9/11 plot from his own computer was not admissible in a federal courtroom and without that evidence, the feds had to settle for a life sentence, thus he

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Ted Poe: avoided the death penalty. and much of the evidence against muhammad was through interrogation. it makes us wonder whether the evidence obtained against him lawfully under military rules will be admissible in federal court. federal courts were never intended to deal with wartime

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Ted Poe: situations. military courts have always been the reason. and now we're going to alow this individual to have center stage in new york city to be tried and maybe possibly be convicted, become an international martyr on the international stage. it makes no sense they ought to be sent back to guantanamo.

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Ted Poe: d that's just the way it is. the speaker pro tempore: the chair lays before the house the following communication. the clerk: the honorable, the speaker, house of representatives, madam, to the permission granted in clause 2-h of rule 2 of the u.s. house of representatives, the clerk received the following message from the secretary of the senate on november 16, 2009,