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Senate Proceeding on Jan 28th, 2009 :: 0:15:30 to 0:40:15
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Chuck Grassley

0:15:27 to 0:15:47( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: many kids who don't have health insurance today who should get it. the presiding officer: the senator from let me say to the acting president pro tempore that you have to b time i give a speech, you know. you probably hear the same

Chuck Grassley

0:15:30 to 0:40:15( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Chuck Grassley

Chuck Grassley

0:15:48 to 0:16:08( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: things twice. that's okay. i shouldn't have put the new senator in that position. but i thought, you know, a little bit of humor around here doesn't hurt i thank the senator from montana, the chairman of the committee, for his remarks. obviously, from what i stated

Chuck Grassley

0:16:09 to 0:16:29( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: yesterday, i have a difference of opini i'm not going to speak about that because i spoke about it yesterday. before i go president, i'd like to make a unanimous consent request terry members of my stave, be granted floor privileges during the

Chuck Grassley

0:16:30 to 0:16:53( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: debate of h.r2, the children's health ins reauthorization act the presiding officer: without objection. mr. grassley: madam president and members of the senate, i would like to speak about the schip bill, not about a specific point -- although i might mention some differences that we

Chuck Grassley

0:16:54 to 0:17:14( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: have i've been a member of the senate now for quite a few years. i've worked across the aisle on many, many time in the senate. we have worked together -- meaning "we," democrats and republicans. in my case, as an individual,

Chuck Grassley

0:17:15 to 0:17:35( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: the senator from iowa, and i'm speaking about the close relationship i have with the chairman of the committee now, we've worked together on major tax, trade, and health care legislation over the last few years, where we were able to set aside partisanship and work together to make good policy. i know what it means to make a compromise. i know what it means to keep

Chuck Grassley

0:17:36 to 0:17:56( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: that compromise. in 2007, i worked with my friend, senator baucus,s well as senator hatch, a republican, senator rockefeller, a democrat, to pass the reauthorization of the children's health insurance program. we twice passed a bill in the senate with wide bipartisan margins. was it a bill that senator hatch

Chuck Grassley

0:17:57 to 0:18:19( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: and i, as republicans, would have written? no. was it a bill that senator have written, if they were writing the bill all by themselves? novment the bill was a compromise. so everybody gives a little bit. we compromisedo get a bipartisan vote, and we were successful in getting that bipartisan vote.

Chuck Grassley

0:18:20 to 0:18:42( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: we won a veto-proof majority in the senate. we came just a few votes close of a veto-proof majority in the house. in fact, senator baucus and i worked with house republicans, tried to get a few more house republicans to come around so we could have a bill on the books in 2007 or early 2008.

Chuck Grassley

0:18:43 to 0:19:03( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: unfortunately, that didn't work out, and, unfortunately, at the time, president sign the bill. i thought he was wrong to veto the bill. i still think he was wrong to veto it. i said so loudly and clearly, and i would like to refer to some comments that i made two years ago to the senate at that

Chuck Grassley

0:19:04 to 0:19:24( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: particular time. i don't have the exactate, but it was during the debate on the schip bill at that particular and i would quote from that debate, and this is the senator from iowa saying this two years ago. "first, the president himself

Chuck Grassley

0:19:25 to 0:19:45( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: made a commitment to covering more children. i wish to refer to the republican national -- -- or "i think i made a mistake two years ago. "i was referring to the conventi

Chuck Grassley

0:19:46 to 0:20:10( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: "in new york city in 2004 and president bush was very firm in making a point on covering children. let me tell what i said. american children must also" -- this is quoting from president bush at that time. "american children must also have a healthy start in life. in a new term" -- meaning the the terminate that would start

Chuck Grassley

0:20:11 to 0:20:31( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: -- meaning theterm that would start in 2005 "we will lead an a. gressive effort to insure millions of children who are eligible but not sign the upper fa the government's health insurance programs fl we will also not allow a lack of attention or information to stand between these children and health care that they

Chuck Grassley

0:20:32 to 0:20:54( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: now, that's the from president bush in 2004. i went ton duri at that time during the debate in 2007. "that was back 2504. three months later the president is reelected with a it seems to me the president was

Chuck Grassley

0:20:55 to 0:21:16( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: very clear in his then. let me repeat his words because i think they are important. he said he would lead aggressive effort to enroll millions of poor children in government health insurance programs." then i g myself. "president bush, this is your friend, chuck grassley, helping

Chuck Grassley

0:21:17 to 0:21:37( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: you to keep the promise you made in new york keep your mandate that you had as a result of and somewhere the priorities of this administration seem to have shifted. the congressional budget office reports that the proposal for schip included in the

Chuck Grassley

0:21:38 to 0:22:00( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: president's fiscal year 2008 budget would result in the loss of coverage, not an increase of coverage, as the administration had been advocating for in the year 2year 2004 and that the coverage would add up to 1.4 million children of pregnant men."

Chuck Grassley

0:22:01 to 0:22:21( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: and that's the end of my speech for that day to the senate. but i later -- or maybe one day later i referred tohis again, so i was trying to make very clear that i was speaking to the president of the united states. i want to quote from -- i

Chuck Grassley

0:22:22 to 0:22:42( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: this is dated 9/27/250. but during the continuing debate on schip. this is quoting me. "i quoted the president making a promise at the republican convention in new i did n yesterday. i want to state again what the president said.

Chuck Grassley

0:22:43 to 0:23:06( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: you can't say it too many times. i hope that we -- at some time the president rembers what he quoting the president from the new york republican convention. "we will lead a an aggressive effo poor children who are eligible but not signed up for the government's program." end of the president's quote.

Chuck Grassley

0:23:07 to 0:23:28( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: continuing to quote for myself: "an extension of law, which is what was going to happen if the president vetoes this bill, will not carry out said at the republican convention in new york in 2004. faced with that, your answer?? mr. president of the united states, should be yes. this bill gets the job done that

Chuck Grassley

0:23:29 to 0:23:50( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: you said in wanted to do. i hope the president's answer will be yes because if he doesn't veto this bill, then we will do those things he said he wanted to do. it will help more than 3 million low-income, uninsured children. about half of the new money is just to keep the program running. the rest of the new money goes

Chuck Grassley

0:23:51 to 0:24:12( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: to cover more than low-income children." now before i go on with my remarks, i want to say that i along with a lot of other republicans that voted for the schip bill in 2007 wer vindicated that we said the president didn't have enough money in his budget that year, of only a billion increase, because his next-year budget,

Chuck Grassley

0:24:13 to 0:24:35( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: the budget year we're i now, he put 0 and we kept saying to the president bush in 2007, you know, billion isn't going to do it. so we had more money in the bill that the president vetoed. and -- but i think that by his putting 0 billion in for the year we're in now, you know,

Chuck Grassley

0:24:36 to 0:24:56( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: billion wasn't enough. well, why do i go to this trouble of explaing to the senators who are listening from what i said two years ago -- well, we president? i'm -- i don't like the way this bill is worked out because it's departed so much -- the bill we

Chuck Grassley

0:24:57 to 0:25:20( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: have before us today departs so much from that compromise tt so many of us worked so hard on. and so maybe people listening are saying, grassley, a republican, we got a democratic president. he's my but i'm going to just be partisan. so i want the public to ow that i'm approaching

Chuck Grassley

0:25:21 to 0:25:42( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: in a way where i disagree with the policy -- the policy of the bush administration at that time, the policy of the partisan bill we have before us now. we have a president today then who's going to sign unfortunately, we are here with a ll that goes back on those compromises that we worked so

Chuck Grassley

0:25:43 to 0:26:03( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: hard on two years ago. for reasons i still don't fully unde bound and determined to set aside that hard work that led to that years ago. they have decided to go back on critical compromises is is

Chuck Grassley

0:26:04 to 0:26:26( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: important -- they have decided that going back on a critical compromise is more importan than achieving the same bipartisan votes as we did in 2007. the senate should now be considering our second bill, our final compromise of 2007. i'm state children's health insurance program is the product

Chuck Grassley

0:26:27 to 0:26:47( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: of a republican-led congress in 1997 signed into law by a democrat president. this has always been a very bipartisan issue now for 11 years down the road. it is a targeted program, designed to provide affordable health coverage for low-income children of working families. these families make too much to

Chuck Grassley

0:26:48 to 0:27:11( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: qualify for medicaid but struggle that afford private insurance. in 2007, senator rockefeller made the point "chip, children's health insura of bipartisanship. i am quite proud of it," senator rockefeller said.

Chuck Grassley

0:27:12 to 0:27:33( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: in 2009, however, the democratic le their majorities, has decided to abandon a number of good-faith agreements made between members during the last congress. in doing so, the majority has embarked on reckless course of action designed to alienate the very republicans o stood up

Chuck Grassley

0:27:34 to 0:27:54( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: president bush when he vetoed the schip bills and carry the scars from those fights. it's very disappointing then that the first health bill that the new democratic congress sends to the new democratic president, my president, is legislation that breaks from that bipartisan tradition.

Chuck Grassley

0:27:55 to 0:28:16( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: i want my colleagues to understand i'm very reluctant to be in a position of having to fight against this bill. after the battles of schip in 2007 and the emergence of health reform as a priorities of the 111th another fight over children's health insurance program and

Chuck Grassley

0:28:17 to 0:28:38( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: direct all efforts t broadly bipartisan health reform bill which i still think is a possible. at least the having lead me to say that at this point. now, maybe six months from now i'll be disap i hope no. however, the democratic majority was determined, on this bill,

Chuck Grassley

0:28:39 to 0:29:01( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: they wanted a quote -- "win" over a broader, larger effort and therefore i was be one of the fir bills considered by the new congress. i was informed that, rather than move forward with a second vetoed bill, a bill with changes

Chuck Grassley

0:29:02 to 0:29:22( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: that senator pelosi and this quote is about the compromise of two years ago she said -- quote -- "a definite improvement on the first bill." the democratic leadership had decided to move ahead with the first vetoed instead of thi speaker pelosi said was better than the first bill.

Chuck Grassley

0:29:23 to 0:29:46( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: even though i could have insisted on negotiating off the second bill which represented a number of improvements as speaker pelosi said and i felt that it strengthened the bill i agreed to try and work out compromise somewhere between the first vetoed bill of 2007 and

Chuck Grassley

0:29:47 to 0:30:09( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: the second vetoed bill of 2007. from democratic leadership, my willingness to work out a compromise that could have set us on a bipartisan met with a resounding "thanks but no thanks." no negotiations, no give-and-take, no compromises, no bipartisanship. take-it-or-leave-it.

Chuck Grassley

0:30:10 to 0:30:31( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: the senate has abandoned moving forward with a bill that generated a great deal of democratic praise just two years ago. the hard work and bipartisan cooperation went children's health insurance bills in 2007 produced legislation obama's new chief of staff emanuel, who was a member of the

Chuck Grassley

0:30:32 to 0:30:54( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: house of representatives at that time have strong support from b democrats and republicans," from two years ago but on a issues the other side does not want to support the first children children bill -- children's health insurance bill of 2007.

Chuck Grassley

0:30:55 to 0:31:15( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: the bill before the senate now eliminates policy on crowd-out of in both vetoed bills which brings me to a question: what, exactly, was wrong with the crowd-out policy of both of those vetoed bills? the congressional budget office

Chuck Grassley

0:31:16 to 0:31:36( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: in estimated that the children's health insurance program has a "between a quarter and a half of the increase in public coverage resulting from the children's health insurance program." congressional budget office goes

Chuck Grassley

0:31:37 to 0:31:59( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: on "for every 100 children who enroll as a result of schip there is a corresponding reduction in private coverage between 25 and 50 children." i would be very interested in learning reasons why those on

Chuck Grassley

0:32:00 to 0:32:21( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: this side of the aisle completely eliminated the crowd-out provisions from both of certainly it is not because democrats put forth a policy addressing crowd-out in a better or more certainly it is not because

Chuck Grassley

0:32:22 to 0:32:44( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: democrats have new analysis that crowd-out is no longer occurring especially in the expansion of public programs as c.b.o. says. i hope that members of this who supported the krowt yowd policy of -- the crowd-out policy of 2007 and are now supporting its elimination will

Chuck Grassley

0:32:45 to 0:33:06( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: come to the floor and explain to me and other members of this body why the democratic majority is not concerned about the problem of private coverage with public coverage. in if people

Chuck Grassley

0:33:07 to 0:33:28( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: and you are setting up a program that even by increasing the number of covered people by four million is in all of the people that need children's health insurance program, why would you want to drive people out of right coverage into public coverage? and that's what happens according to the cbo and

Chuck Grassley

0:33:29 to 0:33:53( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: congressional budget office is a nonpartisan group of people that are experts in this area. and, as i said, believe it was, in a comments to something that that senator durbin of illinois said, and i'm not denigrating what he said, i'm supplementing he led us to believe that the

Chuck Grassley

0:33:54 to 0:34:14( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: reason you want to have policy in here because there might be some people poor private coverage that they wo public program. and i'm in the saying that might not be true. but the congressional budget office tells us that you get most crowding out in upper

Chuck Grassley

0:34:15 to 0:34:39( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: middle-income people than you do in lower income people. in other words, memorial that maybe can afford a that maybe can afford a better and have a higher income. why pay out of my pocket when i can go on the public program? so, you know, i think it's wrong to throw

Chuck Grassley

0:34:40 to 0:35:01( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: had in 2007 that was was going to keep people this private coverage. and encourage them to go we don't have eno cover children that don't have anything. neither bills vetoed president bush in 2007 included

Chuck Grassley

0:35:02 to 0:35:24( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: a provision to allow states to be reimbursed at the medicaid and schip levels for legal immigrant children and pregnant women. i'm not going to go into this issue in depth because i did that yesterday. but this issue does open up a difficult and contentious to b brought up.

Chuck Grassley

0:35:25 to 0:35:45( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: one of the reasons i was able to support the compromise of 2007 on the children's health insurance program was that it did not contain the controversial provisions to direct federal research to the cover of legal immigranted and i said how in some instances it could end up covering people who?c

Chuck Grassley

0:35:46 to 0:36:07( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: have come here illegally. we, in the 1996 welfare reform bill, we required the sponsors of legal imbrants to -- immigrants to sign an affidavit they would provide for the legal immigrants the first five years and with this bill we are allowing the responsors to go

Chuck Grassley

0:36:08 to 0:36:30( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: back on that commitment. if you have a contractual right the federal government would want and not encourage ditching it. but this bill would allow that to happen. we're allowing sponsors to go back on that commitment they made to the taxpayers of this country.

Chuck Grassley

0:36:31 to 0:36:51( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: additionally, the .3 the bill provides for the immigrants who were promised they would be taken care of, is money that could be far better children same argument i gave about crowd-out. if you got people on private insurance, save the public money to have people that have nothing

Chuck Grassley

0:36:52 to 0:37:15( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: because four american we cover here that don't have coverage are not going to get cox because there's -- to get coverage because there's not enough money to the .3 billion could be used for people who have nothing. in 2007, during the debate, majority leader mr. reid said

Chuck Grassley

0:37:16 to 0:37:37( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: this about the children's health insurance program "a very difficult but rewarding process for me; it indicates to me that there is the ability of this congress to work in a bipartisan , bicameral basis." well, you have an election in

Chuck Grassley

0:37:38 to 0:37:59( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: between but it seems to me that -- the comity of the senate would dictate if that was a good statement to make in 2007 it would hold true for 2009, as well. this should have been an easy and quick bill to pickup and pass this year. our bipartisan coalition fought

Chuck Grassley

0:38:00 to 0:38:21( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: side by side children's health insurance done in 2007. picking up that have been a straightforward ercise. for somebody like me in the republican party this went against his own caucus to get a bipartisan agreement to stand up against my hard in the u.s. house of representatives to get a few

Chuck Grassley

0:38:22 to 0:38:46( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: more republican leaves us dangling out there. without show how you can work in a bipartisan way. instead, what are we toward? a process that will likely end up with a bill republicans like this senator who have been strong supporters of children's health insurance

Chuck Grassley

0:38:47 to 0:39:10( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: program though comferrable supporting theill. in 2007 the children's health insurance program received high praise from the other side. and i'd like to give you a quote. "a very difficult but rewarding process."

Chuck Grassley

0:39:11 to 0:39:31( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: anone that the ability of congress -- quote -- "to bicameral basis," and if the senator from montana, i'm going to smile at you, that's your quote the presiding officer: the senator's time is expired. mr. grassley: i have three sentence

Chuck Grassley

0:39:32 to 0:39:53( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: unanimous consent for -- the presiding officer: without objection. grandson grass this is an unfortunate going of the 111th congress and i regret the democratic leadership has so quickly abandoned bipartisan process and does not bodewq for cooperative

Chuck Grassley

0:39:54 to 0:39:59( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: coming

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