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Senate Proceeding on Feb 8th, 2008 :: 2:25:31 to 3:06:27
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Bill Nelson

2:01:50 to 2:25:31( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Bill Nelson

Bill Nelson

2:25:16 to 2:25:31( Edit History Discussion )

Bill Nelson: junior senator from alabama's recognized. a senator: mr. president, it is great to be with my colleague, senator nelson and his great knowledge of space and military defense issues are very valuable

Jeff Sessions

2:25:31 to 3:06:27( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Jeff Sessions

Jeff Sessions

2:25:31 to 2:25:54( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to this country. mr. sessions: he chairs the strategic subcommittee in armed services in addition to his nasa work on the commerce committee and i value his leadership and expertise. and i'm going to share

Jeff Sessions

2:25:54 to 2:26:07( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: some thoughts that go along a little bit with one of the points that he was making about the united states's reliance on russia as a legitimate partner in a number of activities that are occurring

Jeff Sessions

2:26:07 to 2:26:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: around the world today. we dese as a nation, and we have been so hopeful, that we've entered into a new period of cooperation with russia after the fall of the soviet union, that they would be a

Jeff Sessions

2:26:24 to 2:26:39( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: legitimate partner with our in improving both our nations and the world. we have the capability of creating a lot of peaceful partnerships that could help create progress, prosperity, and peace in the world

Jeff Sessions

2:26:39 to 2:26:53( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and -- but the reality is, i've got to say, that a lot of things are happening to just cause us great concern, and we, as a nation, are going to have to face up to the fact that they're not reliable.

Jeff Sessions

2:26:53 to 2:27:13( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they may not be reliable as a partner in space. they certainly are not reliable in helping, i think, containing the proliferation of nuclear weapon so we've got some big issues facing us, and i thank

Jeff Sessions

2:27:13 to 2:27:30( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the senator from florida for at least raising that point about space. let me note yesterday's "the new york times", this is a headline, matthew wald. mr. allard: kal -- "u.s.-backed russian institutes

Jeff Sessions

2:27:30 to 2:27:54( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: help build iran reactor" -- "the energy department is subsidizing two russian nuclear institutes that are building important parts of a reactor in iran whose construction the united states spent

Jeff Sessions

2:27:54 to 2:28:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: years trying to stop according to a house committee." -- the article goes on "the institute gave american officials copies of sales, to boost shared reactor which russia agreed to fuel as one of their

Jeff Sessions

2:28:08 to 2:28:33( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: projects. one institute is providing control systems including control room equipment, and the other, hundreds of pumps and cerveny ration fans. the energy department is subsidizing the institutes under

Jeff Sessions

2:28:33 to 2:28:48( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the institutes of proliferation prevention, it was set up in 1994 after the collapse of the soviet union, it was -- from selling to keep from selling nuclear helps." the. mr. allard: article goes

Jeff Sessions

2:28:48 to 2:29:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: on, itsupplements the salaries of scientists and pays overhead to those institutes according to the house subcommittee. quote, disftion not immediately clear if the energy department was contributing

Jeff Sessions

2:29:03 to 2:29:23( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to the salaries of the very scientists involved in the share reactor project. two michael isikoff democrats, john d. dingell, chairman of the house committee on energy and commerce and the chair of the

Jeff Sessions

2:29:23 to 2:29:49( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: oversight and investigations committee asked that question in a letter on wednesday to secretary of energy samuel bodman and the article there -- their letter says this. quote -- "what policy logic

Jeff Sessions

2:29:49 to 2:30:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: justify that's the department of funding nuclear technology to a run" -- close quote. pretty good question. goes on to ask this additional question -- "how does this advance our nonproliferation?" close

Jeff Sessions

2:30:01 to 2:30:21( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: quote. i salute our house colleague, mr. dingell, for asking these questions and we're going to have to grow up and we're going to have to acknowledge some things that are happening within russia

Jeff Sessions

2:30:21 to 2:30:35( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: that are not positive. we wish it weren't so.~ we wish we could be in better shape with russia today, and it's just most discouraging and troubling really that t we're not. i had the opportunity to

Jeff Sessions

2:30:35 to 2:30:54( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: be in the region before i was a senator. we spent a couple weeks there with the russian people. i enjoyed that and lived with the people. it was an exceedingly inform informative and wonderful trirntion

Jeff Sessions

2:30:54 to 2:31:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and i value those relationships that we had at that time. but the government of russia is on a different track, i am afraid. we might as well begin to talk about it. so in the letter that congressman

Jeff Sessions

2:31:10 to 2:31:32( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: dingell wrote, notes that in october 2007, the national intelligence estimate conclude ed -- quote -- "iranian entities are continuing to develop a range of technical capabilities that could be applied

Jeff Sessions

2:31:32 to 2:31:48( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to producing nuclear weapons if a decision is made to do so." close quote. and if we'll remember the national intelligence estimate written by a committee headed by state department persons, not professional

Jeff Sessions

2:31:48 to 2:32:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: intelligence officers, conclude ed that the iranians weren't attempting to build a nuclear bomb. but in that report they did note that they are pushing forward aggressively with create ing a nuclear reactor

Jeff Sessions

2:32:10 to 2:32:27( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to generate electricity, when they're signature on untold wealth of natural gas and oil, which is an odd goal. but they are proceeding with that. also they vary in that report that the process of learning

Jeff Sessions

2:32:27 to 2:32:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: how to operate a nuclear reactor is by far the most important step in building a nuclear bomb. if you can handle that problem, it takes you very little time to create a nuclear weapon. so this is not

Jeff Sessions

2:32:47 to 2:33:02( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: a matter of un unimportance. mr. dingell goes on to quote secretary of state condoleezza rice in 2006 saying that the united states -- quote -- "faces no greater challenge from a single country" --

Jeff Sessions

2:33:02 to 2:33:26( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: close quote -- than from iran. and so he says this in his letter to secretary of energy -- "given these dire warnings, it's troubling that the dependent of energy would subsidize or otherwise support

Jeff Sessions

2:33:26 to 2:33:48( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: russian institutes providing technology and services to the iranian nuclear program" -- close quote. and i would agree. this is not the first time this issue is being -- has been discussed. in december

Jeff Sessions

2:33:48 to 2:34:06( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: 21 of just last year year, henry skolsky, writing in the "weekly standard" -- and mr. sokolsky is the director of the policy noneducation center in washington, d.c., and co coauthor of the book "getting

Jeff Sessions

2:34:06 to 2:34:28( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: ready for a nuclear-ready iran," made some very troubling comment comments. he starts off saying this: "perhaps the only thing more disappointing than m.i.a. moscow moscow's shipment this week of

Jeff Sessions

2:34:28 to 2:34:48( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: highly enriched uranium to fuel the power reactor at bushir in iran was president bush's endorsement on it." quote -- "if the russians are willing do that" -- supply the uranium" uranium -- "which i

Jeff Sessions

2:34:48 to 2:35:05( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: support, then the russians do not need to learn how to enrich uranium." so this is the continuing continuation of a state department tendency to excuse problems with iran and russia, and the president apparently

Jeff Sessions

2:35:05 to 2:35:21( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: was making a comment consistent with that view. and the article goes on to state, quote, "tech anything technically, this will only bring tehran close er to getting a bomb. if the fuel is diverted

Jeff Sessions

2:35:21 to 2:35:39( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and use ed as fresh feed for iran's usual rainium enrichment sent seine tear fuges, it could dramatically reduce the time and effort needed to mick a bomb's worth of highly enriched weapons weapons-grade

Jeff Sessions

2:35:39 to 2:35:58( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: uranium. russia shipped 82 tons of light lightly enriched uranium. and any time while it is loading the fuel, tehran could seize it an have enough uranium to feed its centrifuges and make up to 150

Jeff Sessions

2:35:58 to 2:36:21( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: crude nuclear weapons." so, mr. -- former under secretary of state john bolton repeatedly detailed in testimony and speeches these concerns, of. now that he's left the department, is it looks it

Jeff Sessions

2:36:21 to 2:36:38( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: looks like people have forgotten what is going to occur here. i would note at a press briefing on january 31 -- excuse me, in 2003, this was the press comment comment, that we have an agreement with

Jeff Sessions

2:36:38 to 2:36:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: russia that would allow them to profit from this in a substantial degree. i'll just quote from this press spokesman for the department of state, i believe. the spokesman said this, "we believe that president

Jeff Sessions

2:36:51 to 2:37:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: putin shares our deep concern at the prospect of a nuclear-armed iran iran. we have made clear to russia that any further nuclear cooperation with iran, including construction of additional power

Jeff Sessions

2:37:08 to 2:37:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: reactors, will assist directly or indirectly iran's ambitious requests for nuclear weapons." close quote. so back in 2003, we were more alert to this and we were state stating, i think, the unvarnish

Jeff Sessions

2:37:22 to 2:37:36( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: unvarnished fact about it. this kind of activity could only assist directly or indirectly iran's ambitious request for nuclear weapons. the spokesman went on to state, "we have underscored to russia that

Jeff Sessions

2:37:36 to 2:37:49( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: an end to russia nuclear assistance to iran would allow the united states and russia to reap the promise of our new sttegic relationship benefit benefiting russia economically and strategically far more

Jeff Sessions

2:37:49 to 2:38:11( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: than any short-trm gain of construction of additional reactors or other sensitive transfers to iran." and then he went on to suggest and state, quote, "if the russians end their sensitive cooperation

Jeff Sessions

2:38:11 to 2:38:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: with iran, we have indicate ed we would be prepared to favorably consider such transfers of spent fuel back to russia" that now cannot be done legally without our accord, and -- quote -- "an arrangement

Jeff Sessions

2:38:29 to 2:38:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: worth potentially several billion u.s. dollars in revenue to moscow." so we had a carrot and stick there. it looks like it was not a very good offer because the russians didn't accept it. they've gone

Jeff Sessions

2:38:51 to 2:39:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: forward with this. now, with regard to the question of the national intelligence estimate that i believe creates a very significant false impression that the iranians had no interest in going forward

Jeff Sessions

2:39:10 to 2:39:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: with creating a nuclear weapon, that was the headlines out of it it. it was written -- designed to do that and create that headline, i am convince ed. and the persons who a were allowed to write it

Jeff Sessions

2:39:29 to 2:39:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: should be held to account for the misapprehensions that they've create ed brighting it. but at any rate, now the director of national intelligence, admiral mcconnell, at a hearing the day before yesterday

Jeff Sessions

2:39:47 to 2:40:02( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to the senate select committee on intelligence said about this report that was done by a team under him that i guess he gave some look at, as did general hayden at c.i.a. but neither one of them signed

Jeff Sessions

2:40:02 to 2:40:20( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: it as an absolute position of the d.n.i. or the c.i.a. he said this -- quote -- "if i had till now to think about it i probably would change a few things." close quote. he later added, "i would change

Jeff Sessions

2:40:20 to 2:40:34( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the way we described the iranian nuclear program. i would have included that there are component parts that the portion of it may be the least significant as halted as halted." the pro proportion of

Jeff Sessions

2:40:34 to 2:40:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: their nuclear program that they stopped was the least important. the most important prater part is still ongsmg i just say that to say we're not in some academic exercise here. we're dealing with

Jeff Sessions

2:40:47 to 2:41:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: a rogue state state, iran, who has been determined to obtain nuclear weapons and have been working on it for years, and they are receiving assistance from the russians, and we're supporting the russians

Jeff Sessions

2:41:10 to 2:41:32( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: apparently in ways that help them support the iranians. directly contrary to our policy policies. so, madam president, i would just conclude -- and we're going to have to talk about this a good by

Jeff Sessions

2:41:32 to 2:41:55( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the more as time goes by by. but a lot of things are happening that are very troubling. as i said, i wish it weren't so. just on february 4, the "jerusalem post" reported that a successful satellite launch

Jeff Sessions

2:41:55 to 2:42:11( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: by the iranians would testify to a dramatic improvement in their missile capability. ahmadinejad, the president, was present at the launch site and gave orders to launch the rocket itself. quote --

Jeff Sessions

2:42:11 to 2:42:33( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: "our presence in mace is necessary." "any country that respects itself should control the most advance ed technology." does that include nuclear weapons? we are grateful to god for witnessing the

Jeff Sessions

2:42:33 to 2:42:49( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: first and determined steps toward an iranian satellite. they're spending a lot of their money on satellites and weapons as many as systems and nuclear weapons. that's just a fact. so, madam president,

Jeff Sessions

2:42:49 to 2:43:09( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: we're going to have to think about mr. putin and the russian leadership, and that's just a fact. we wish that things were going better. they're not. there's been a string of belligerent and unwise actions by

Jeff Sessions

2:43:09 to 2:43:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the russians that can cause us only great concern. for example, in january of 2006, they cut off natural gas supplies to the ukraine. a deliberate political act to try to pressure the ukrainians, a

Jeff Sessions

2:43:24 to 2:43:43( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: former satellite. in may of 2007, russian cyber attacks shut down the internet throughout estonia, a former russian satellite now independent. it has no desire what is over to be back a part of

Jeff Sessions

2:43:43 to 2:43:55( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the soviet union or anything like this. in august of 2007, ruing jet fight fighters invade ed georgian airspace and dropped a missile, in georgia, who is a free nation with elections and a highly intelligent

Jeff Sessions

2:43:55 to 2:44:21( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: leadership team, many of whom are educated in the united states. this is not our georgia. this is georgia on the russian border, and they absolutely have no desire to fall under the sway of the

Jeff Sessions

2:44:21 to 2:44:37( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: russians again. but this is the way they behave. russia has supported georgian separatists and stations and separatist movements. they actively support anti-western opposition in ukraine and cerg stan

Jeff Sessions

2:44:37 to 2:44:54( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: kyrgyzstan. they are ramping up their military, spending dramatically when there's no perceived increase in threats to russia. what serious argument could be suggested that russia is under military threat?

Jeff Sessions

2:44:54 to 2:45:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: from the e.u.? we can't even get them to pull the trigger in afghanistan. some of them won't even carry guns. they're not threatening russia. in sumple 2007 russia started bomber flights outside its territory,

Jeff Sessions

2:45:10 to 2:45:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: encroaching on the airspace of the united kingdom, norway and guam, united states territory. in september of 2007, russia loudly announce ed test of a super superstrength conventional bomb, a new superstrength

Jeff Sessions

2:45:29 to 2:45:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: bomb they're building.~ in october of 2007, putin announced a plan to restore russia's armed forces and about new nuclear weapons. while we're dramatically reducing the number of weapons in our country,

Jeff Sessions

2:45:47 to 2:46:12( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they -- they are developing and testing missiles to evade u.s. missile defenses. and what about their relationship with iran? putin visited them in october, pledging enhanced russian iranian cooperation,

Jeff Sessions

2:46:12 to 2:46:30( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: including nuclear energy. the -- has resumed work on the reactor, conducted major arm sales with iran, syria, and venezuela, including fighter aircraft and antiaircraft missiles, with china, u.s. has

Jeff Sessions

2:46:30 to 2:46:52( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: having blocked meaningful actions on iranian nuclear weapons. one of the odd things to me is they're trumping up an issue between the united states and russia over our perfectly legitimate and reasonable

Jeff Sessions

2:46:52 to 2:47:09( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: decision to build a missile defense system in europe, in poland with radar facilities in the czech republic. we plan to go forward with that. well, you would think that they see this as a tremendous

Jeff Sessions

2:47:09 to 2:47:25( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: threat to them. but there will only be a few mills there. they are not designed in any way to defend against russian missiles, and they have many, many times the numbers that that little base could

Jeff Sessions

2:47:25 to 2:47:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: ever build in poland. but, no, they are trumping up a dispute between the united states and europe and russia over this. some say, well, it's for domestic political consumption to help putin con consolidate

Jeff Sessions

2:47:46 to 2:48:05( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: his power. whatever reason, it's not helping. and this nation has got to wake up and be able to understand that russia fueled by all of this new oil money in a growing, powerful, control over the country

Jeff Sessions

2:48:05 to 2:48:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: by mr. putin is not a healthy partner. and we've got to ask some real questions, are they going to be a legitimate partner for a better world or not? so, madam president, i -- this article in yesterday's

Jeff Sessions

2:48:22 to 2:48:39( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: "the new york times" was just very troubling to me. it represents, i think, a -- another example of confused thinking that may be existing within the bowels of our government regarding our relationship with

Jeff Sessions

2:48:39 to 2:49:00( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: russia and with iran. we've got to be realistic and honest and accept the fact that things are not going well, that in many, many ways russian activity is darker and darker, less and less positive. they

Jeff Sessions

2:49:00 to 2:49:14( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: continue to define their relationships with roag rogue states and bad actors. continue to frustrate the legitimate actions of the developed world to create a more prosperous economy and more peace.

Jeff Sessions

2:49:14 to 2:49:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they're just frustrating that. so i'm concerned about it. we're probably going to talk about more as time goes by. but it might as well start right now questioning just how reliable russia is

Jeff Sessions

2:49:29 to 2:49:43( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: as a partner. should we be participating in space programs with the russians? frankly, it's cost us more than we've gained from their assistance. many experts say. so this partnership is main

Jeff Sessions

2:49:43 to 2:50:05( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: -- has mainly been a good way for the russians to gain insight into our technologies, but it has not been a real advantage to our space program. and if we don't watch it, we'll be dependent on them in

Jeff Sessions

2:50:05 to 2:50:45( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: a way that can keep us from falling through on our goals for space. i thank the chair and would yield the floor. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. the the presiding officer: the clerk

Jeff Sessions

2:56:59 to 2:57:11( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: will call the roll. quorum call: a senator: madam president. the presiding officer: the senator from alabama is recognized. mr. sessions: i would like to ask that the quorum call be disspoansed dispensed

Jeff Sessions

2:57:11 to 2:57:28( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: with. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. sessions: madam president, i would like to clarify an issues that caused a lot of concern for years now. it's really now come to a

Jeff Sessions

2:57:28 to 2:57:43( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: conclusion, i think, and i'm glad that it has. i'm glad to tern that learn that waterboarding has not been used but three times by our country and ha not been used in almost five years. from the

Jeff Sessions

2:57:43 to 2:57:59( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: reports that many -- and statements made by members of congress and extremext groups around the world, you would thinkhat we have had a systematic effort of -- to waterboard people and otherwise

Jeff Sessions

2:57:59 to 2:58:16( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: torture and abuse them. only one prisoner has died since they've been in u.s. custody since the beginning of the war on terror. we treat them very well. i have been to guantanamo bay on more than

Jeff Sessions

2:58:16 to 2:58:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: one occasion and i have seen how interviews are conducted. so have large numbers of our body here done so. but as i've indicated in earlier remarks we wish the world were safer than it is. unfortunately

Jeff Sessions

2:58:31 to 2:58:50( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: it's not as safe as we would like and those of us sitting comfortably at home forget the real threats that are out there and we are -- we tend to forget that there are determined groups who want to attack

Jeff Sessions

2:58:50 to 2:59:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the united states of america like they did on 9/11 and kill our people. and this is an unpleasant task. and when confronted on the battlefield in iraq, in afghanistan, we shoot them and we kill them

Jeff Sessions

2:59:08 to 2:59:32( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and we drop bombs on them and we kill them. because these are life and death matters that congress has authorized. i wish that weren't necessary. i know it's a failure of us in some form or fashion,

Jeff Sessions

2:59:32 to 2:59:52( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: but as a practical p erson, we know no other alternative than to defend yourself. we are required to do that. i was just reading an article from the -- m.r. emit terrell jr. in "the washington

Jeff Sessions

2:59:52 to 3:00:14( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: times" today, he talks about what admiral mcconnell said a few days ago in hearings. he talks about -- in the last year. this is a quote from mcconnell. quote -- "the number of terrorist takes in death

Jeff Sessions

3:00:14 to 3:00:33( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: was greater than the last six years combined." he was talking about the battle for pakistan's survival. and -- and he further goes on to state that al qaeda plans more attacks against the united states

Jeff Sessions

3:00:33 to 3:00:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and was working on a plan for attacking the white house as recently as 20066. homegrown -- 2006. homegrown al qaeda cells have been primitive, he said, but he said that there was a concern that more

Jeff Sessions

3:00:47 to 3:01:09( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: new sophisticated cells might threaten t us in the years ahead. and that's quoting from the article, and that's a fair summary, i think, of admiral mcconnell's comments. and then i just -- since

Jeff Sessions

3:01:09 to 3:01:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: we've now openly talked about the waterboarding question and members of congress have now gotten the information, i think we need to make sure we know exactly how those three occurrences developed.~

Jeff Sessions

3:01:29 to 3:01:45( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the first thing we know is that it worked. i hate to say, it worked. number two, the agency -- only the c.i.a., never the united states military, never the department of defense, not in iraq, not in afghanistan,

Jeff Sessions

3:01:45 to 3:02:06( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: that was not utilize ed by our military military. but the central intelligence agency on three occasions since september 11, they ute utilize ed it only on those terror leaders who have posed the

Jeff Sessions

3:02:06 to 3:02:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: utmost threat to our national security. ab al raman, al nashiri, who was the mastermind of the attack on the u.s.s. cole. we had hearings about that dastardly atafnlgt i remember about a year after

Jeff Sessions

3:02:22 to 3:02:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the cole was attacked and we had, what, 18 american sailors killed by this vicious attack and could have been a lot more, we commissioned a ship down at norfolk, virginia virginia, and as we walked out

Jeff Sessions

3:02:46 to 3:03:09( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: of the ceremony, a young sailor hollered out and it still makes nigh hair stand up, "remember the cole!" well, we got him. abu sdubadaya, who was the brain behind the thwarted millennium attacks that we

Jeff Sessions

3:03:09 to 3:03:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: were able to block, and khalid sheikh mohammed, who directed september 11, , the attacks on september 11, s. 11,k.s.m. that's his name now for the professionals. khalid sheikh mohammed. and as -- so,

Jeff Sessions

3:03:22 to 3:03:39( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: i believe that the attorney general of the united states, after researching this matter carefully, and i believe our intelligence agency ies, after continuing to give it thoughtful review, have

Jeff Sessions

3:03:39 to 3:03:50( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: conclude ed that we do not need to have waterboarding now, that these three ip substances substance instances were justified. attorney general mukasey, a former federal judge, approved over

Jeff Sessions

3:03:50 to 3:04:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: whelmingly by the united states senate, was asked to make an opinion on t he said he believed they were justified. under those circumstances. and he would not say that we would never, ever do it again in the

Jeff Sessions

3:04:10 to 3:04:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: future. that circumstances would determine how you handle those kinds of situations. and let me just note again for a lot of people, these are not honest and legitimate soldiers of a nation state.

Jeff Sessions

3:04:31 to 3:04:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the people that are subjected to this procedure are persons who are unlawful combatants. theye persons who do not fight according to the rules of war, and they don't wear uniforms, they deliberately

Jeff Sessions

3:04:51 to 3:05:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: attack civilian personnel, they do it through subterfuge and violence, and their goals are outside all rules of warfare. and until some recent cases, they were clearly considered not to be provided any

Jeff Sessions

3:05:03 to 3:05:18( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: protections under the geneva convention. so, i would just say, madam president, we hate to talk about these things, we wish that we didn't face the kind of threats from the diabolical terrorists that we

Jeff Sessions

3:05:18 to 3:05:30( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: do, we wish that we didn't have to go to war and shoot and kill many of them, but we as a nation -- congress, both parties -- authorized that activity. we fund that activity. our soldiers are out there

Jeff Sessions

3:05:30 to 3:05:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: put putting their lives on the line at this very moment to execute that policy, place ing themselves in harm's way, and i'm glad the attorney general has reviewed it carefully. i i'm glad he's able

Jeff Sessions

3:05:47 to 3:06:27( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to say only -- washingtoning washington waterboarding was utilize ed only three times. but he did not say it would never be use ed again. this would be unwise advice to the enemy that we face. i

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