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Senate Proceeding on Mar 3rd, 2010 :: 8:09:25 to 8:16:05
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Max Baucus

8:09:06 to 8:09:27( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: unsustainable. so let's do these good programs, but let's take a novel approach and let's pay for them. so, mr. president, this -- at this time i'd like to make a point of order pursuant to section 4g-3 of the statutory pay as you go act of 2010, i raise a point of order against

Max Baucus

8:09:25 to 8:16:05( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Max Baucus

Max Baucus

8:09:28 to 8:09:48( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: the designation in the pending amendment. a senator: mr. the presiding officer: the senator from montana. mr. baucus: pursuant to congressional budget act of 1974 and section 4g-3, i move to waive all applicable sections of those act for purposes of

Max Baucus

8:09:49 to 8:10:10( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: substitute amendment and i ask for the yeas an nays. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? mr. lemieux: second. the presiding officer: there appears to be. mr. baucus: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from montana. mr. baucus: mr. president, this is a killer motion that the senator from florida's making. this amendment kills jobs.

Max Baucus

8:10:11 to 8:10:31( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: this amendment tells people who are currently unemployed, you're not going to get unemployment checks. this amendment tells people who are trying to get health insurance under cobra, sorry, no more. this amendment tells doctors who are trying to take care of patients, medicare patients,

Max Baucus

8:10:32 to 8:10:53( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: they're not going to get paid what they should be paid. let me give you a few numbers. half a million workers lose their jobs -- who lose their jobs get help today under cobra, that's the health insurance substitute provision for those who lost their jobs. half a million workers who lose their jobs today will not get

Max Baucus

8:10:54 to 8:11:15( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: insurance benefits under cobra. this amendment says that to them. this amendment also will have the effect, if adopted, to prevent nearly 40 million medicare beneficiaries an nearly 90 million -- nine million tr tricare beneficiaries from

Max Baucus

8:11:16 to 8:11:36( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: getting care. this will prevent 400,000 americans from getting unemployment insurance benefits. that's just starters. this motion, if adopted, is not a poison amendment, it's a killer amendment. it kills the bill that we're trying to pass in a short period of time. the bill

Max Baucus

8:11:37 to 8:11:57( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: unemployment benefits, to extend the cobra benefits, to make sure that -- that people who should get relief under current law are able to maintain that. now, this is very similar to the situation we face because of the efforts by the senator from

Max Baucus

8:11:58 to 8:12:20( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: kentucky not long ago. we finally resolved that, mr. president. that was a 30-day extension. and the senate voted 87-19 -- 78-19 to continue those benefits under that 30-day provision. the senator from kentucky tried to stop it. the senate agree by a vote of 78-19

Max Baucus

8:12:21 to 8:12:42( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: that we should proceed and pass that 30-day continuation. this is an emergency. we're in an economic emergency, mr. president. unemployment is close to 10%. you know, ts economy is still in a recession. it's slowly getting better, but if this amendment were to pass, the amendment offered by the

Max Baucus

8:12:43 to 8:13:03( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: senator from florida become law, then, frankly, just think of the signal that would send to -- to the -- to americans who are now relying upon cobra benefits an unemployment benefits -- and unemployment benefits. this point of order is a killer, we need to waive the point of order in order to vote for a bill that will come before us

Max Baucus

8:13:04 to 8:13:25( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: this -- later on this evening. so i urge senators when the vote comes on this -- when this waiver that we waive the budget point of order because otherwise the senator from florida's provision will just send a terrible signal to millions of americans. mr. lemieux: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from florida.

Max Baucus

8:13:26 to 8:13:46( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: mr. lemieux: with all due respect to my colleague, the chairman of the finance committee, my point of order willot stop these programs from being extended. what it will do is make sure we pay for them by the end of the year. a novel idea that we actually pay for a program. so we look at programs that we have now perhaps and we cut other programs. do we not think that there's

Max Baucus

8:13:47 to 8:14:08( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: some inefficiency within the administration of the federal government? we had a proposal that we tried to pass lass last year to require all of the governments of the federal agency to cut 5% when they've had 5%, 10%, 20% increases year after year after year. surely governing and leadership it about making decisions.

Max Baucus

8:14:09 to 8:14:30( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: i voted for the 30-day extension. i want to vote for this bill, but i want to pay for it. i want to make sure that we're not borrowing money from the children and grandchildren of florida and america to pay for this bill. i want to make sure that we're not going to pay interest to the chinese to pay for this bill. i think it makes perfectly good sense that we require by the end

Max Baucus

8:14:31 to 8:14:52( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: of the year that we find money to pay for this. every dollar we spend is a choice. it's a choice on what we should spend it on. and in this body and in this congress, it's a choice, unfortunately, to put a burden on our children and grandchildren because we spend much more than we have. so i am supportive of extending unemployment compensation.

Max Baucus

8:14:53 to 8:15:14( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: i am supportive of extending cobra, which is health care. i am supportive of helping out the states with medicaid payments. all i'm asking is let's pay for it. surely, there are some other programs, duplicative in government, inefficiencies that we can find to offset this payment. this is not a killer.

Max Baucus

8:15:15 to 8:15:35( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: this is just responsibility. i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the senator from montana. mr. baucus: i hope we could vote on this fairly soon. basically, let's remind ourselves that this is an emergency. we have lost over seven million jobs in this recession. we're not out of the recession. employment is close to 10%. we hope it comes down.

Max Baucus

8:15:36 to 8:15:56( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: this is an emergency. in emergency situations, you take emergency action. that's why thi legislation is necessary now. i hope that when the economy does recover that we have the fortitude, mr. president, to start to live within our means, as we should. nobody debates that. but we are in a situation now we have got to make sure that --

Max Baucus

8:15:57 to 8:16:06( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: that we extend those benefits and that medicaid dollars go to the states right now because we are still in an emergency.

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