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Senate Proceeding on Apr 6th, 2011 :: 4:31:45 to 4:41:05
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John Rockefeller

4:31:35 to 4:31:55( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: quorum call: the presiding officer: the senator from west virginia. mr. rockefeller: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the order of the quorum call be rescinded. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. rockefeller: mr. president, we're going to be voting this afternoon on a number of e.p.a. bills.

John Rockefeller

4:31:45 to 4:41:05( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: John Rockefeller

John Rockefeller

4:31:56 to 4:32:16( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: one in which is mine which calls for a short two-year waiting period but does not shut down in any way the e.p.a. particularly on cafe standards. i have two messages, one is i hope, but doubt, but nevertheless hope that people

John Rockefeller

4:32:17 to 4:32:38( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: will vote for my bill. as of last december i would have gotten every republican vote, but when they broke away from the omnibus recollection agreement, those votes went out the window, so i think they'll vote for mcconnell, which i

John Rockefeller

4:32:39 to 4:33:00( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: think is a mistake. first of all i'm opposed to the mcconnell amendment. i think it's foolish. it overreaches. it's briefly satisfying and devastating on a long-term basis. a case in point, it undermines

John Rockefeller

4:33:01 to 4:33:22( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: the ability because of -- because it obliterates the e.p.a. to set cafe standards. too few people in this body understand that 31% of all carbon emissions come out of the rear end of trucks and cars and other vehicles. and that the right and the power

John Rockefeller

4:33:23 to 4:33:47( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: and the science to set cafe standards is incredibly -- an incredibly important mission of the e.p.a. under the mcconnell amendment, that, along with everything else that e.p.a. does, is out the window on a permanent basis. it's good-bye e.p.a. forever. that strikes me as not mature

John Rockefeller

4:33:48 to 4:34:09( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: approach to legislation. i understand the frustration. we had that in west virginia. the e.p.a. doesn't understand necessarily the nuaunces of economic situations, there's a more exacting way to present

John Rockefeller

4:34:10 to 4:34:30( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: legislation and so i call for a two-year time-out period. but i don't abolish e.p.a. i say for a period of two years they shouldn't do regulations on power stations, manufacturing plants or oil refineries. that strikes me as not a fatal thing. it strikes me as something that could become law.

John Rockefeller

4:34:31 to 4:34:52( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: the most important thing i can say about the mcconnell bill, i just pray that that sinks in, it won't, but i pray that it will, there is not one chance in 10 trillion that the mcconnell bill will become law. it will not happen. he shuts the e.p.a. down permanently in all respects forever.

John Rockefeller

4:34:53 to 4:35:13( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: it will never happen. i doubt it will pass the senate it will certainly not pass at any other level where it counts. so why do they do that? they do that because it doesn't solve the problem, it makes a point.

John Rockefeller

4:35:14 to 4:35:34( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: it makes people feel good because they're mad, but, in fact, it does great destruction to our future. it doesn't solve a problem. i'm here to solve problems. what i think we do need is a time-out to stop the impositions of e.p.a. that don't allow for clean technologies and would hurt the economy in a very

John Rockefeller

4:35:35 to 4:35:56( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: critical point in our still slowly moving recovery, but to do in a way that keeps us all focused and working on the long-term energy policy. yes, we've had problems with e.p.a. in west virginia, but the answer is that you don't -- you don't get rid of the agency forever. i mean, it's -- this -- it's

John Rockefeller

4:35:57 to 4:36:18( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: incomprehensible to me that mature people could actually be for that, vote for that, respouse that, but they -- espouse that, but they have. and as of last december when we were doing the omnibus appropriations bill, every

John Rockefeller

4:36:19 to 4:36:40( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: republican would -- had agreed, more or less, you know, to vote for my bill, just a two-year time out which shouldn't affect cafe standards. but then all of a sudden nine republicans defected. the election had already been held, the house was about to go

John Rockefeller

4:36:41 to 4:37:03( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: into republican hands, and once they defectd, then -- defected, then everything crashed down and all of the votes that i would have gotten from the republican party are now gone. i doubt that i'll get any votes from the republican party and not many from my own party, which -- which i regret, but which i understand.

John Rockefeller

4:37:04 to 4:37:25( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: i believe -- i believe in clean coal. people say coal. i much like it better if they say clean coal. because if it's just coal the way it is in the ground, we're not going anywhere and natural gas will overtake coal, put them out of business. i've said this to the coal

John Rockefeller

4:37:26 to 4:37:47( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: operators quite frequently, they don't believe me. it's true. it happened in north carolina, 12 power plants, in lots of other places. i have nothing against natural gas. we have a lot of natural gas. natural gas has one half of the carbon that coal does. it has one half. they call themselves a clean fuel and in relation to coal in

John Rockefeller

4:37:48 to 4:38:08( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: the ground, they are. but 50% is a long way from what we are already doing in west virginia, which is taking 90% of the carbon out of coal as a comes -- as it comes out of the ground. it goes to a power plant where there's a dow chemical company on the one hand, american

John Rockefeller

4:38:09 to 4:38:29( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: electric power on the other have already -- and i've seen their plants and i've seen their results and i went with secretary chu where they're taking 90% of the carbon out of coal. that's not bad. you can call that clean coal. we've got a gigantic energy problem. we need everything we can get.

John Rockefeller

4:38:30 to 4:38:50( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: i was even prepared to be for nuclear, which is about 20% of our current power structure. i'm not sure which am right now. -- where i am right now. i have to think more deeply about that. i'm worried because our power plants are old also like the japanese ones are. so all i can say is, i'm for

John Rockefeller

4:38:51 to 4:39:13( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: keeping our eye on the ball. i'm not for making us sort of feel good on a very temporary basis -- you know, everybody gets mad at the e.p.a. it's sort of like opening day in american baseball, i mean, you just do it and people cheer, but if you -- if you do it the way it's done in this amendment by abolishing the -- the agency,

John Rockefeller

4:39:14 to 4:39:36( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: that's a long season and it's a really bad win-lose record. so i hope that -- i hope that my bill will get sufficient votes. i'm not sure -- i don't think it will because i think the folks on the other side of the aisle have completely deserted it

John Rockefeller

4:39:37 to 4:39:58( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: because they feel a great solidarity, want to show their power, and along comes an elimination bill -- i just couldn't be for that. morally i couldn't be for that. i'm strongly for west virginia coal miners. i just came back last night from the first anniversary of the 29 coal miners who died. it wasn't an anniversary, it was a memorial.

John Rockefeller

4:39:59 to 4:40:19( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: and powerful, powerful life being a coal miner, which is unknown to most people what it's like, what the dangers are, but they do it and they're strong, but what they -- what they produce could be cleaned up, the technology is there. that's what my amendment would do, give a two-year time-out to let us work the technology, try

John Rockefeller

4:40:20 to 4:40:41( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: to be convincing to wall street and then we could be on our way to have not only natural gas every single alternative energy i can possibly think of, perhaps minus ethanol, but that's a different story and we'd be on our way. in any event, it's -- it's a

John Rockefeller

4:40:42 to 4:41:03( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: clear choice. clean coal has to play a role in meeting our energy needs. it's abundant. it can be clean. the technology is there. more is on the way and so i hope that people will vote for my amendment and i hope very strongly that they will vote against the mcconnell amendment.

John Rockefeller

4:41:04 to 4:41:05( Edit History Discussion )

John Rockefeller: in the final analysis, i guess,

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