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Senate Proceeding 05-13-08 on May 13th, 2008 :: 3:10:12 to 3:16:56
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Jon Kyl

3:09:56 to 3:10:12( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: of the committee, senator kennedy. to suggest the bill is not perfect is not to suggest that i don't respect his considerable skills at writing and legislating. it's just that we have some disagreement

Edward Kennedy

3:10:12 to 3:10:30( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: about some of the things and i suspect if it went through the committee process it would be a better product than it is today. the presiding officer: the senator from massachusetts. mr. kennedy: i'll just

Edward Kennedy

3:10:12 to 3:16:56( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Edward Kennedy

Edward Kennedy

3:10:30 to 3:10:45( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: take a few moments to respond to some of the points that have been made during thehe afternoon. there are some very bake and -- basic and fundamental points that should be made and that is the question

Edward Kennedy

3:10:45 to 3:11:00( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: of the right to choose and the ability for individuals to have that right to choose. here on the floor of the united states senate we heard last night from the tennessee and the time here earlier from

Edward Kennedy

3:11:00 to 3:11:14( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: the senator from arizona and i appreciate his kind personal comments. i always join in paying tribute to my colleague, the senator from wyoming -- although we differ on this legislation. he knows the

Edward Kennedy

3:11:14 to 3:11:29( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: great respect i have for him as a legislator and the affection i have to him. there is a difference between a state saying, "no, we are going to deny people the opportunity for clective bargaining,"

Edward Kennedy

3:11:29 to 3:11:45( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: and a state having a process and a procedure in which the people in the state make that judgment and decision. it's as if we had the right to vote. the state says, "well, we're not going to permit

Edward Kennedy

3:11:45 to 3:12:00( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: a right to vote," but we say every individual ought to have that right to vote and if they're not going to use it, that's their judgment and decision. but it is an important enough right to say that they

Edward Kennedy

3:12:00 to 3:12:16( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: ought to exercise and be able to exercise. that's what we're saying with this legislation. a decision dealing with safety and security and collective bargaining for the first responders is sufficientl

Edward Kennedy

3:12:16 to 3:12:34( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: important that they have an opportunity to express themselves in the states. in the states. and the state itself, as good as we believe their judgments are, ought to set up a process and a procedure and

Edward Kennedy

3:12:34 to 3:12:48( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: let the people in the states make that judgment. that's pretty apple pie america, to lot people make decisions on matters that will make an important difference with regard to safety and security of the

Edward Kennedy

3:12:48 to 3:13:02( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: people in the community. that is what this is basically about. when we hear on the other side, my state made a judgment and we're trying to see another state imposing its will on a poor state, i think

Edward Kennedy

3:13:02 to 3:13:20( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: my friend answered that very well as a general concept, but in the particular, it's important to understand what is at the root of this. that is a process this legislation passes, the state has four

Edward Kennedy

3:13:20 to 3:13:31( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: broad criterias that it must meet and the senator from arizona is correct, that if the state doesn't meet those requirements, the federal labor relations authority as to step in and make sure those

Edward Kennedy

3:13:31 to 3:13:48( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: requirement are met. if they do, and there are only four, and they're not complicated and it's difficult to assume why they won't do it because you think the state would want t o let the workers, their

Edward Kennedy

3:13:48 to 3:14:06( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: first responders, to have a voice and a vote in this, and that -- and, therefore, the federal labor relations authority would not become involved.~ unless there was a request that they should become

Edward Kennedy

3:14:06 to 3:14:19( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: involved. so the idea that we get to these scare kind of tacticsf -- and i don't say is that in a pejorative way, but just in trying to -- for our membership to understand, we believe that those firefighters

Edward Kennedy

3:14:19 to 3:14:30( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: and first re responders can make that judgment. we think it is an important enough decision that affects their lives and the lives of the people that they are protecting, that they should make it,

Edward Kennedy

3:14:30 to 3:14:44( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: around then they can make the judgment decision on what they want in that particular state. they make the judgment decision that they don't want to have any of tse collective bargaining, so be it. but

Edward Kennedy

3:14:44 to 3:15:02( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: at least they have the possibilities of moving ahead in that direction. and it's difficult for me to believe that the states would refuse to establish the kind of outline, process, and procedure where that

Edward Kennedy

3:15:02 to 3:15:16( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: would be possible. so that, mr. president, i think, is important for us to understand. i'll say that, mr. president, there are a host of different provisions in the hatch amendment which have been

Edward Kennedy

3:15:16 to 3:15:28( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: re rejudiciary committee reject rejected in one form or another. we might go over there briefly on tomorrow fl but i want to . but i want to just point out that there is no requirement that we're

Edward Kennedy

3:15:28 to 3:15:35( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: going to the card checkoff. i am a supporter of the card checkoff. i think it would open up the opportunities for people to be ail to speak on the issues of -- to be able to speak on the issues of

Edward Kennedy

3:15:35 to 3:15:51( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: whether they want to organize or not but we have not made that judgment in this legislation, understand that isn't what this legislation is about. you know it's always interesting to me, you hear all the

Edward Kennedy

3:15:51 to 3:16:03( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: opposition to card checkoff. when we know historically that we had card checkoff and it work worked very, very well into the late-1950's. we had it and we didn't hear a lot of the horror stories that we

Edward Kennedy

3:16:03 to 3:16:18( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: hear associate ed with it at this present time. but there is not any requirement in this that we're going to alter or change that. it is important that people understand that because during the course

Edward Kennedy

3:16:18 to 3:16:33( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: of the afternoon i heard a description of this legislation that i could not understand and never would have supported if the legislation provided that. so, mr. president, i think that it's -- we've had

Edward Kennedy

3:16:33 to 3:16:56( Edit History Discussion )

Edward Kennedy: a good discussion on a number of these issues and on a number of others during the course of the after afternoon. we'll have a chance to go through in more careful detail the record this evening, make

Mike DeWine

3:16:56 to 3:17:09( Edit History Discussion )

Mike DeWine: addition additional points when that opportunity presents itself. suggest i suggest the absence of a quorum. mr. enzi: mr. president? the presiding officer: the r:senator from wyoming. mr. enzi: has

Mike DeWine

3:16:56 to 3:20:02( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Mike DeWine

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