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Senate Proceeding 05-19-09 on May 19th, 2009 :: 4:39:25 to 4:54:10
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Orrin Hatch

4:39:25 to 4:54:10( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Orrin Hatch

Orrin Hatch

4:39:29 to 4:39:50( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: quorum call: mr. hatch: mad the presiding officer: the senator from mr. hatch: i ask unanimous consent the call of the quorum be dispensed. .theresiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. hatch: i rise to express concerns over closure of guantanamo bay detention center. the closure of this nation's only secure strategic interrogation center puts our nation at risk.

Orrin Hatch

4:39:51 to 4:40:11( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: i am income peopled by the obama administration policy reasons to justify closing guantanam next eight months. currently, there is no suitable replacement for guantanamo. this $200 million facility is secure and is a state-of-the-art facility. moreover, it is located away

Orrin Hatch

4:40:12 to 4:40:32( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: from population centers and staffed by trained military personnel. guantanamo has no equal within the continental united states. on march 19, 2009, as reported by "the wall street journal," attorney general hold are made reference to the idea that the department of justice would bring some of the detainees

Orrin Hatch

4:40:33 to 4:40:53( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: this country and release them. the attorney general's statement that he is "open to a policy of outright release," of terrorists brought to the united states is disturbing. coming as it does from the senior administration official charged with executing this plan. it also does not dispell my grave concerns about clo guantanamo bay.

Orrin Hatch

4:40:54 to 4:41:15( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: indeed, the manner in which this closure has been orchestrated has provided few details and little assurance about how this facility will be closed within the next eight months and what will be the superior alternative to guantanamo.

Orrin Hatch

4:41:16 to 4:41:40( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: detainees remaining at guantanamo, 174 received or conducted traing at al qaeda camps and facilities in afghanistan. there is direct evidence that 112 participated in armed hostilities against u.s. and coalition forces. furthermore, 64 of these remaing detainees either

Orrin Hatch

4:41:41 to 4:42:01( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: worked for or had direct contact with osama bin laden and 63 of the remaining detainees had traveled to tora bora and in 2001 the cave complex was the fall back taliban and believed to be the hideout for osama bin laden. not just anyone could access to

Orrin Hatch

4:42:02 to 4:42:24( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: and we've gone through these particular 17 al qaeda camps in afghanistan. 112 participated in armed hostilities with u.s. or coalition forces. 64 w osama bin laden.

Orrin Hatch

4:42:25 to 4:42:46( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: 63 traled to tora bora. the administration has stated that they will bring the chine uighurs to the sole purpose of releasing them. all 17 uighurs have demonstrated -- demonstrable ties to the etim, a designated terrorist

Orrin Hatch

4:42:47 to 4:43:11( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: organization the eitm made terrorist threats against olympics. regardless of previous terrorist activity, any member of organization would be ineligible to enter the united states pursuant to federal immigration law, let alo roam this country. one of the trainers for these

Orrin Hatch

4:43:12 to 4:43:32( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: chinese nationals was hassan bin laden. the uighurs traveled to afghanistan by using al qaed resources. they were also lodged in al qaeda safe houses and terrorist training facilities. this alone is indicative of these -- that these terrorists were vetted and respected enough

Orrin Hatch

4:43:33 to 4:43:54( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: to be allowed access to al qaeda havens. title 8 section 1188 of the united states code defiance inadmissible aliens. any alien who is engaged in terrorist activity or is a representative of a terrorist organization is ineligible to enter the united states.

Orrin Hatch

4:43:55 to 4:44:15( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: the guantanamo uighurs have certainly met this definition. but to completely address this ac analysis one step further. the law also quote -- "any alien received military-type traing from or in behalf of any organization that at the time of training was received was a

Orrin Hatch

4:44:16 to 4:44:37( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: terrorist organization" is ineligible to enter the country. that's what this say in received military traing (as identified in section of title 18 from or on behalf of any organization time traing was received, was

Orrin Hatch

4:44:38 to 4:44:59( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: a terrorist organization (as defined in "quilingsd also like to out that my esteemed from the judiciary committee has brought this to the the attorney general. my colleague has justice department's assertion

Orrin Hatch

4:45:00 to 4:45:20( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: that the uighurs could be american communities as c citizens in need of asylum. the justice department' that they can be country for purposes of nondetention is preposterous. it is before looking, to rush head off on before making policy without

Orrin Hatch

4:45:21 to 4:45:41( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: carefully analyzing what the unwanted by-products of that policy will be. i am interested in hearing the justice department's legal reason transfer. th attorney general holder described the closure of guantanamo as -- quo -- "good for all nations" -- unquote. he argued that anger over the

Orrin Hatch

4:45:42 to 4:46:02( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: prisoners has become a powerful global recruiting tool for terrorists, unquote. with all due respect t attorney gen anyone else in this administration has yet demonstrated a strong analytic understanding of what is motivating terrorist recruitment. furthermore, terrorist organizations did not appear to

Orrin Hatch

4:46:03 to 4:46:24( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: face a shortage of recruits for violent jiha prior to the media frenzy on the guantanamo facility. jihadists are ideologically motivated. jihadists are ideologically motivated. in fact, corroborated evidence obtained from interviews interrogations of detainees at

Orrin Hatch

4:46:25 to 4:46:46( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: guantanamo has revealed that 118 of the remaining detainees in custody were recruited or inspired by a terrorist network. therefore, closin closing guantanamo in the next eight months is simply not goi "silver bullet" -- unquote -- and solve the problem of recruitment to violent visa had. for this and other rrntion i am

Orrin Hatch

4:46:47 to 4:47:09( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: sily not willing to trade guantanamo for the possibility of trying to appease and become more popular with our critics living in foreign countries. popularity is an inappropriate and extremely mushy measure of policy soundness. many of our foreign critics would ke our nion to abandon its support for if our nation's popularity

Orrin Hatch

4:47:10 to 4:47:30( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: abroad is wouldn't we have to consider that option? of course we wouldn't. i know this senator will never what our foreign critics say or what the contemporary media or oversensitive diplomats suggest. if the administration follows

Orrin Hatch

4:47:31 to 4:47:52( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: its time line, as i -- as i have before me, guantanamo will closed in eight months. any detainees left in custody at the end of that time will be transported to the united states. i think it bears repeating that this transport will be from a secure state-of-the-art

Orrin Hatch

4:47:53 to 4:48:13( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: facility, guantanamo, one that is alrea oppose reagan administrational and staffed with train military personnel. relocation to the united states would require agencies like the united states marshal service, f.b.i., and the bureau of prisons to divert assets and manpower from essential programs and facilities to secure these detainees.

Orrin Hatch

4:48:14 to 4:48:36( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: now, it is worth noting that the bureau of prisonsoes not have enough space available to house these detainees in high-security facilities. b.o.p. -- bureau officials -- have previously stated that they consider these prisoners -- quote -- "a high security risk." as such they would need to house

Orrin Hatch

4:48:37 to 4:48:58( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: them in a maximum security facility. the b.o.p., the bureau of prisons, has 15 high-security pris these installations were originally built to hold prisoners, yet they currently house more than 20,000 high-security inmates. so it doesn't take a rocket

Orrin Hatch

4:48:59 to 4:49:20( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: scientists to see bureau of prisons could not receive these guantanamo detainees. the bureau's high-security facilities are already woefully overcrowded by nearly 7,000 inmates. look at the current population.

Orrin Hatch

4:49:21 to 4:49:42( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: the yellow bar graph the blue one is the related capacity. we have enough people in these high-maximum-security prisons that they're and yet they want to put these

Orrin Hatch

4:49:43 to 4:50:03( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: high-risk terrorists and certainly can't be in these high-risk f moreover, it does not be functional $200 million facility that has no equal domestically. why would the federal government transfer detainees from the

Orrin Hatch

4:50:04 to 4:50:24( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: secure military facility located on an island that is isolated from populous areas to a domestic military installation? no state in the union wants that. why should we make the martial service or the bureau of prisons jump through hoops to re-create or replicate the proven effective model of detention

Orrin Hatch

4:50:25 to 4:50:46( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: facility that guantanamo has become? a few weeks ago president obama asked his cabinet to to save $100 million from the federal budget. however, the president's defense supplemental contained $80 million for the guantanamo p. t administration had no plan on how to spend that

Orrin Hatch

4:50:47 to 4:51:07( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: and had no identified a replacement that is superior or even equal to guantanamo. fortunately, the house of representatives addressed this flawed plan or lackf a plan and corctly stripped the $80 million out of the defense supplemental. since rent to cuba for the use of

Orrin Hatch

4:51:08 to 4:51:29( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: guantanamo bay. this amount i less than $5,000 a month. despite this, the administration insists on closing guantanamo and spending millions of taxpayer dollars without a defined plan. this is ludicrous. in february a department of defense report determined that

Orrin Hatch

4:51:30 to 4:51:52( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: guantanamo far exceeds any detention facility united states. let me repeat that. in february, a department of defense gumo far exceeds any detention facility here in the united states. this report also found that the facility is in common article 3 of the geneva convention.

Orrin Hatch

4:51:53 to 4:52:13( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: i'm sure i need not remind my colleagues, many of whom have visited guantanamo, as i have, that this facility has the capability to accommodate a trial, provide health care, and securely house some of the most dangerous terrorists ever captured on the face of this globe. sadly, the especially i taf of

Orrin Hatch

4:52:14 to 4:52:35( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: the guantanamo bay detention facility was written the day the executive orders to close it were signed. despite not having a process to close guantanamo, the administration determineto do it anyway. therefore, guantanamo will be closed in eight months, not because its current conditions violate the geneva

Orrin Hatch

4:52:36 to 4:52:58( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: but because of a slanders campaign by the media t paint guantanamo as a symbol of injustice. unfortunately, some of my colleagues have drunk the kool-aid and bought into this canard. let me remind my colleagues that common article 3 of the geneva convention requires that prisoners of war not be held in

Orrin Hatch

4:52:59 to 4:53:19( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: civilian prisons and should be tried -- should not be tried, excuse me, in civilian courts. guantanamo is still an asset to this country. i don't see how anyone who is hohonest about the matter can characterize it in any other way especially since there is not a sufficient replacement located domestically to meethe justice

Orrin Hatch

4:53:20 to 4:53:40( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: department's needs. it is my fervent hope that the president and the attorney general will reconsider -- they'll consider a plan to close guantanamo and recognize the obvious: that ads 200 million facility that is already operational and in compliance with international treaties should not be shuttered and closed.

Orrin Hatch

4:53:41 to 4:53:55( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: mr. president, i yield the floor. quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll.

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