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Senate Proceeding 05-25-10 on May 25th, 2010 :: 3:24:05 to 3:32:35
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Jon Kyl

3:24:01 to 3:24:21( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: quorum call: a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from texas. arizona, i'm sorry. mr. kyl: i a madam president. i ask unanimous consent that further proceedings of the quorum call be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. kyl: thank you. in a moment, madam president, i'm going to ask for regular order with respect to the cornyn

Jon Kyl

3:24:05 to 3:32:35( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Jon Kyl

Jon Kyl

3:24:22 to 3:24:42( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: amendment for the purpose of second degreing the cornyn amendment, with one additional request for appropriation. namely, about $200 million for some court personnel and related facilities to accommodate taking

Jon Kyl

3:24:43 to 3:25:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: illegal immigrants who have violated the law by coming into the country illegally and after processing through the court system with lawyers available, incarcerating those people for two weeks or if it's multiple offenses coming into the country illegally for 30 days in most cases.

Jon Kyl

3:25:04 to 3:25:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: where this has been don border, illegal immigration has almost come to a stop because going to jail represents a real deterrent, and to just illustrate the difference between two sectors of the border in arizona, you can see how we could really make a difference for a relatively small amount of money in controlling the border.

Jon Kyl

3:25:25 to 3:25:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: it can be done. arizona is divided into two halves. the eastern half is the tucson sector. the western half going into california for about 30 or 40 miles is the yuma sector. both have had huge problems with illegal immigration. in the last five years, illegal immigration in the yuma sector

Jon Kyl

3:25:48 to 3:26:09( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: has been cut by 94%. that's huge. there is one other sector on the border somewhat similar, the del rio, texas sector wherehis operation streamline is also in effect, and it's been cut there dramatically as well. in the other arizona sector, tucson, where operation streamline has not been fully implemented, there are still

Jon Kyl

3:26:10 to 3:26:30( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: about a quarter of a million people per year crossing the border that are apprehended. nobody knows how many get across and are not apprehended, but estimates range from three to four to five times as many. so in all likelihood, there are about a million people crossing theorder every year in the tucson sector, about a quarter of a million of which are apprehended. we need to provide a deterrent for those people so that they

Jon Kyl

3:26:31 to 3:26:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: realize that they shouldn't cross. what happens is that about 17% of the people who are apprehended when they try to cross illegally we find are criminals in the united states. they have criminal records in the united states or are wanted for crimes here. well, obviously, those people don't want to be when they are caught.

Jon Kyl

3:26:52 to 3:27:12( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: the remainder, the 83%, want to come here to work. they just want jobs, but can't be providing for their families back in mexico or el salvador or wherever they might be from if they are in jail. and the yuma sector experiences found that as a result if they know for a certainty that they are going to go to jail if they

Jon Kyl

3:27:13 to 3:27:34( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: are caught, they stop trying because it's simply not worth it to them. and they go someplace else on the border to try to come across. the number in yuma is staggering. five years ago, we were apprehending 118,500 illegal immigrants. so far this year, it's about 5,000. and i was there about six weeks ago. i talked to the head of the

Jon Kyl

3:27:35 to 3:27:56( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: border patrol, and i said well, what's it like just today? he said well, there is no activity. i said well, there has to be some. he said no, most days nobody tries to i said that's pretty remarkable. why? he said three facto we have 11 miles of double fencing in the urban area, the yuma urban area. we have enough border patrol, and we have operation streamline.

Jon Kyl

3:27:57 to 3:28:17( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: now, there are some other assets. they have cameras, there are lights. the marine corps which helps in the far easternart of this sector near the barry goldwater gunnery range, a place where jet airplanes fly and drop bombs for practice, the marine corps takes care of that, and so they have had pretty good luck there, but

Jon Kyl

3:28:18 to 3:28:38( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: there are no pedestrian fences, it's all just vehicle barriers in that area. and there are some radars out there. but the bottom line is that with the combination of these things, what they have found is they can secure the border, and it is relatively inexpensive. now, i say relatively. you do have to have a defense lawyer, a prosecuting lawyer,

Jon Kyl

3:28:39 to 3:29:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: court clerk, a judge, a courtroom, andhen you have to lease the jail space. but those things can be done. and so what we're hoping is that we can begin to apply this same concept to other sectors of the border and that in a relatively short period of time we can demonstrate that we can secure the border. and when we do that, madam president, not only will we have

Jon Kyl

3:29:02 to 3:29:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: done what we're supposed to do as the people who are in charge of enforcing the law, but then i think people will have a much more open mind to consider other things such as elements of comprehensive legal immigration or comprehensive immigration reform. as i've said, you don't need comprehensive reform to secure the border, but you do need to secure the border to get comprehensive immigration reform.

Jon Kyl

3:29:23 to 3:29:44( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: this is a good-faith effort to do it. now, we have provided the funding. i will just read it. it's very brief. that this is an additional amount to fully fund -- it's called multiagency law enforcement initiatives. multi because it's both the department of homeland security and the department of justice. and these are aeady authorized

Jon Kyl

3:29:45 to 3:30:06( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: under title 2 of public law, but this would be $200 million. $155 million available for the department of justice and the available for the judiciary. that's for courthouse veteran -- renovation, administration support, the first part for d.o.j. is hiring additional

Jon Kyl

3:30:07 to 3:30:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: deputy united states marshals, constructing or leasing temporary detention space and related needs of the department of homeland security or attorney general. so, madam president, at this time let me ask unanimous consent to return to regular order for the cornyn amendment if that's the appropriate procedure for offering my amendment as a second-degree amendment thereto. the presiding officer: the

Jon Kyl

3:30:32 to 3:30:53( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: amendment is now pending. mr. kyl: thank you madam president. i send to the desk amendment 4228, a kyl-mccain amendment that would be offered as a cornyn amendment. the presiding officer: the clerk will report the amendment. the clerk: the senator from arizona, mr. kyl, for himself and mr. mccain, proposes an

Jon Kyl

3:30:54 to 3:31:15( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: amendment numbered 4228 to amendment number mr. kyl: madam president, i ask unanimous consent that further reading of the amendment be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. kyl: thank you, madam president. i've explained the amendment. i see another colleague is here wishing to speak; but just summarize it by saying that we need to control the border.

Jon Kyl

3:31:16 to 3:31:37( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: i believe it can be done. the huma sector represents a good skpapl pell of how -- example of how it can be done. the president i understand will be requesting additional personnel. the cornyn amendment will provide specifically for some of the personnel needed on the border and some of the related

Jon Kyl

3:31:38 to 3:31:58( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: activities, both federal and state. our second-degree amendment offered for senator mccain and myself would simply add the funding necessary to implement the operation streamline portion of this that would provide the deterrent so that people would not want to cross the border illegally because if they got caught, there would be a virtual certainty that they would be incarcerated for a relatively short period of time, but more

Jon Kyl

3:31:59 to 3:32:19( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: than obviously any of them want to spend in jail. so for that deterrent to work, we need this additional funding. and i hope when we have an portunity to vote on this, my colleague would ask any questions. i'm willing to discuss this on the floor or privately if they like. there's a lot of other information that we can provide that describes this.

Jon Kyl

3:32:20 to 3:32:35( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: i think it's a very reasonable approach. certainly on this supplemental appropriation legislation which helps to fund the military needs of our country, even the national guard, if that is to be funded, this is a complement to that that i think is totally appropriate in this particular

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