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Senate Proceeding on Jun 4th, 2008 :: 1:04:10 to 1:30:46
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Saxby Chambliss

0:54:21 to 1:04:10( Edit History Discussion )
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Saxby Chambliss

1:03:56 to 1:04:10( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: to lead. unfortunately we've not seen a lot of leadership coming from the white house or really enough from the congress on this front. at lst not yet. that's got to change and that change is starting,

Thomas Carper

1:04:10 to 1:04:21( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: i hope, this week. others in the mean time have begun filling the void. we have another chart here. this is chart oisf our country. a lot of green. light green, dark green, and blue. the light green

Thomas Carper

1:04:10 to 1:30:46( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Thomas Carper

Thomas Carper

1:04:21 to 1:04:37( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: areas are the areas where the states are actually developing their own climate action plants. they're -- they've been waiting for us. they've given up on us. they decided to take the bull by the horn.

Thomas Carper

1:04:37 to 1:04:50( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the light green is where the states have something in progress in terms of develop developing their climate change and the blues have revisions in the process. about 38 states. 38 states. they've

Thomas Carper

1:04:50 to 1:04:59( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: been waiting for us much they're tired of waiting for us. and i don't blame them. one of those states is delaware. they have a plant in my state and a bunch of other states will soon have plants to

Thomas Carper

1:04:59 to 1:05:11( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: reduce their own carbon emissions. the states are not the only one filling the void of federal inaction. fortunately our nation's business, a number of them, are doing the same thing, companies like dupont,

Thomas Carper

1:05:11 to 1:05:20( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: global science company headquartered in my home state of delaware have taken steps to reduce carbon emissions. the dupont c.e.o. said -- quote ai -- "as a company dupont believes that action is warranted.

Thomas Carper

1:05:20 to 1:05:31( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: not further debate. we believe the best approach is for business to lead. not to the wait for public outcry or for government mandates." in contrary to concerns that combating global warming will hurt

Thomas Carper

1:05:31 to 1:05:40( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: american businesses, dupont's actions have had major positive impacts on its bottom line. in the mid 1990's as part of a climate change initiative, dupont began to maximize energy efficiency that. initiative

1:05:40 to 1:05:54( Edit History Discussion )

has allowed dupont to hold its energy use flat while increasing production. n. as result dupont reduced the greenhouse emissions by more than 70%. by doing so the company actually saved $3 billion.

Thomas Carper

1:05:54 to 1:06:08( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: billion. billion with a b. $3 billion. but a patchwork of state initiatives combined with good corporate stewardship however welcomed is not enough. we must have a comprehensive national approach to

Thomas Carper

1:06:08 to 1:06:21( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: give a signal to corporate america that this is a priority borut to the world that the united states is prepared at long last to be a leader on this front as well. i have enough faith on american

Thomas Carper

1:06:21 to 1:06:31( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: technology and know how to believe we can provide that leadership without endangering our economic growth. in fact, if we're smart about it, we'll end up strengthening our nation's economy. key the

Thomas Carper

1:06:31 to 1:06:41( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: ating hundreds -- creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs j and creating products and technology that's we can sell and export around the world. like a -- i quote thomas edison, opportunity. thomas

Thomas Carper

1:06:41 to 1:06:54( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: edison loved to say about opportunity, a lotit of people miss out on opportunity. opportunity comes along wearing overalls and is disguised and looks a lot like work. twheas said. you know, some

Thomas Carper

1:06:54 to 1:07:07( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: people look at global warming, our dependence on foreign oil they see a problem. i see an opportunity. and it's an opportunity that comes with it economic advantages and the possibility of creating

Thomas Carper

1:07:07 to 1:07:19( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: jobs and product slow floa from that including technologies and jobs and products that will flow from dealing with climate change.~ that's why i support the approach of the lieberman-warner climate

Thomas Carper

1:07:19 to 1:07:34( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: security act. this bill harnesses market forces to provide a solid framework for creating a national mandatory program to dramatically reduce greenhouse gases over the next 40 years or so. i'm pleased

Thomas Carper

1:07:34 to 1:07:51( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: to see improvements over the bill. i applaud the chair woman's efforts in the in the recycling and cost containment efforts. a lot of times people say to me what can i do as an individual to help on

Thomas Carper

1:07:51 to 1:08:03( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: global warming, as it turns out everybody can recycle. here's a couple of reasons why. in 2006, the united states recycled -- threw away, literally, threw away in a can in trash, some 83 million tons

Thomas Carper

1:08:03 to 1:08:17( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: of materials, a recycling rate of about a third. we recycle about a third of that stuff. but we offset -- let me back up. let me say that again. in 2006, the united states recycled about 80 million

Thomas Carper

1:08:17 to 1:08:30( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: tons of materials. that's about a third of all thatha we would otherwise throw away. off setting the release of some 50 million tons of carbon. that's the equivalent in emission that is we saved

Thomas Carper

1:08:30 to 1:08:36( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: by recycling of some 39 million cars each year because we recycle. however, we only recycle about a third of what we could. each year americans discard enough aluminum to rebuild our entire domestic

Thomas Carper

1:08:36 to 1:08:48( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: airline fleet every three months. put simply, increasing recycling cuts greenhouse gas emissions. to encourage recycling in states, to require no less than 5% of carbon credit revenues be allocated

Thomas Carper

1:08:48 to 1:09:02( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: to states, must be used for improving recycling infrastructure, to heltrp states recycle, states and local communities to recycle more. i want to thank the chairwoman for working with me on this

Thomas Carper

1:09:02 to 1:09:11( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: important issue. let me talk about cost containment next. i'm also pleased with the cost containment provisions senator boxer included in the substitute such as the extra pool of allowances available

Thomas Carper

1:09:11 to 1:09:25( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: in the early years to help contain high prices and the allowances returned to customers to keep energy prices down. i believe that these provisions are moving us in the right direction to address

Thomas Carper

1:09:25 to 1:09:37( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: any runaway costs that might occur in a new market. and although this bill is a gd start, i believe we can make some significant improvements in it, particularly in the area of pollution control,

Thomas Carper

1:09:37 to 1:09:49( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: in the areas the output allocation and in transit, encouraging people to get out of their cars, trucks and vans and take a bus, take a train to get where they need to go. let me start out by addressing

Thomas Carper

1:09:49 to 1:10:00( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: 4-p. it stands for four pollutants. dangerous air pollutants, including sul far dioxide and -- sul sulfar dioxide and energy. i believe in addition to reducing greenhouse gases, we must pass a bill that

Thomas Carper

1:10:00 to 1:10:13( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: addresses these other three pollutants, sulfur dioxide and mercury. sphaoeuf colleagues know because i've driven you crazy over the past five years on this, but 12 of my colleagues and i introduced

Thomas Carper

1:10:13 to 1:10:21( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the clean air act of 2007 fplt we believe the clean air planning act provides an aggressive yet achievable schedule for miles-per-hour plants to reduce emissions and alleviate some of our worst environmental

Thomas Carper

1:10:21 to 1:10:28( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: problems such as ozone, acid rain, mercury contamination and of course global warming. this multipollutant approach fits perfectly within the framework of this comprehensive global warming bill.

Thomas Carper

1:10:28 to 1:10:41( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: i believe that we would be foolish to address only one pollutant, however important it is -- carbon dioxide -- coming out of our nation's smoke stacks while others -- sulfur dioxide, my troe general dioxide

Thomas Carper

1:10:41 to 1:10:57( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and mercury ---- threaten our environment too. my state of delaware along with maryland, virginia, pennsylvania and new jersey, we're at the end of america's tail pipe. and we continue to breathe dirty

Thomas Carper

1:10:57 to 1:11:11( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: air. during the summer months when ozone pollution is at its worst, more than 10,000 delawareans cannot workk or carry out daily activities. nationally some 277 million children age 13 and younger are being

Thomas Carper

1:11:11 to 1:11:25( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: exposed to unhealthy levels of ozone. we've got another chart here. not only do we have the problems with breathing bad air and that harming their lungs and their respiratory system, but for young

Thomas Carper

1:11:25 to 1:11:39( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: children being carried in the mother's wombs, these mothers ingest large amounts of fish that contain mercury. some 630,000 infants will be born this year. they're going to experience high levels

Thomas Carper

1:11:39 to 1:11:53( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: of mercury exposure. as a result they'll have brain damage. they could have brain damage. a mber of them will have investmental delays. some will have mental retardation. some of them will have blindness.

Thomas Carper

1:11:53 to 1:12:04( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: sulfur dioxide emissions -- meanwhile sulfur dioxide emission s from power plants cause 24,000 americans to die this year. 462 this week. 66 today. and one or two during, literally during the time

Thomas Carper

1:12:04 to 1:12:19( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: that i'm speaking here today will die because of exposure to sulfur dioxide emissions from power plants. i don't know how many paoeupl are going to die from climate change, global warming, from co2 emissions

Thomas Carper

1:12:19 to 1:12:35( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: in this country this year. i can tell you how many will die from exposure to sulfur dioxide. 24,000. that's almost as many people who live in dover, delaware. 24,000 people. fossil fuel fired power

Thomas Carper

1:12:35 to 1:12:50( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: plants are the single largest pollution causing these health problems. if we don't act to the tighten emissions of these pollutants, too many communities will continue to live with air unhealthy to breathe

Thomas Carper

1:12:50 to 1:13:02( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and mercury will bring harm to pregnant women and to children. i believe it is not only the right thing to to do, but also the economic thing to do. strict caps for all four pollutants, not just carbon

Thomas Carper

1:13:02 to 1:13:09( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: dioxide, sulfur dioxide, my troe general dioxide and mercury can help drive technology towards a comprehensive military tkpwaeugs rather than a piecemeal approach. that is why i'm aoeupbt duesing

Thomas Carper

1:13:09 to 1:13:17( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: an amendment -- introducing an amendment that achieves similar reductions for sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide and mercury that are adjusted to fit the lieberman-warner timetable. the bottomine is we develop

Thomas Carper

1:13:17 to 1:13:27( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: an economy-wide solution to global warming, we can't lose sight of the simultaneous need to enact stricter caps on mercury, nitrogen dioxide and sulfur s dioxide from power plants. next let me turn

Thomas Carper

1:13:27 to 1:13:38( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: to output allocations, the way we allocate the credits to pollutants -- really the allowances to pollutants and to emit carbon dioxide. i applaud this bill's provisions that provide important funding

Thomas Carper

1:13:38 to 1:14:18( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: for zero and low carbon technology as well as funding to encourage the commercialization of carbon capture and sequestration for coal-fired generation of electricity. half of our electricity comes from coal-fired

Thomas Carper

1:14:35 to 1:14:45( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: plants. we're going to use coal for a long time. we've got to figure out how to capture the co2 that comes off of it and the other major pollutants as well and the a sooner the better. i believe the boxer

Thomas Carper

1:14:45 to 1:14:56( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: substitute can do better to support clean and efficient power generation. i'm concerned this legislation still provides too many subsidies to dirty, less efficient power generation at the expense of new

Thomas Carper

1:14:56 to 1:15:06( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: clean technology. global warming legislation should make wind and other renewable energy projects more economically viable. affordable clean energy should be one of our main goals. unfortunately, this

Thomas Carper

1:15:06 to 1:15:14( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: bill still continues on the saeurpl old paradigm of rewarding -- same old paradigm by rewarding distributors by allowances to emit co2 in this bill are allocated based on fuel being used rather than

Thomas Carper

1:15:14 to 1:15:25( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: with respect to the efficiency with which power is generated. output-based allocation is an important policy tool to ensure that existing power plants, particularly coal-fired plants, are made far more efficient

Thomas Carper

1:15:25 to 1:15:36( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and clean within a reasonable period of time. that's why i'm planning on offering an amendment to change the distribution of allowances in the fossil fuel power sector from an input allocation to an output

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allocation. it seems to me common sense. en we're going to -- here we are trying to figure out how to apportion these allowances to emit co2. why not provide more allowances to those utilities who

Thomas Carper

1:15:50 to 1:15:58( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: createat more electricity by using less energy? that's what we should be doing. and unfortunately, what we do in this bill is werovide more allocations to emit co2 to power plants that use more energy

Thomas Carper

1:15:58 to 1:16:13( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: rather than less energy. we should really provide the allocation and distribution of allowances to some extent at least to reward those who provide a lot of electricity without using a lot of energy.

Thomas Carper

1:16:13 to 1:16:24( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: in addition to providing allowances to efficient fossil fuel facilities, my amendment, our amendment would also provide allowances for new entrants generating electricity from nuclear and from other renewable

Thomas Carper

1:16:24 to 1:16:39( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: forms of energy. just a couple of thoughts on nuclear. i am as some of my colleagues know a strong supporter of safe -- underline safe -- and secure -- underline secure -- nuclear power and believe it

Thomas Carper

1:16:39 to 1:16:50( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: must be a prominent part of any global warming solution. the resurgence of nuclear power in the united states gives us a unique opportunity to rebuild a carbon-free energy industry and create -- and in doing

Thomas Carper

1:16:50 to 1:17:03( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: so, tens of thousands of highly skilled jobs for building the plants and operating them in the future. to do this, we must provide support and incentives to the nuclear manufacturer to redevelop workforce,

Thomas Carper

1:17:03 to 1:17:17( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: especially workforce, facilities and capacity to participate and ultimately lead the world in quality nuclear manufacturing.ac that's why i've joined senator warner, senator lieberman in an amendment

Thomas Carper

1:17:17 to 1:17:30( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: that will offer to provide a sense of the senate that supports workforce training for the nuclear industry. next, transit. finally, i want to discuss a very important provision, the boxer substitute that

Thomas Carper

1:17:30 to 1:17:41( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: funds transportation alternatives. i talked earlier about the importance of getting us out of our kargs, trucks and vans and getting us to take alternative modes of transportation to create less pollution.

Thomas Carper

1:17:41 to 1:17:53( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the transportation sector is responsible for about 30% of our nation's carbon dioxide emissions. almost a third. that is why congress passed legislation that i coauthored with a number of my colleagues last

Thomas Carper

1:17:53 to 1:18:03( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: year -- senator feinstein and others -- to increase auto fuel economy from an average of 25 miles per gallon to 35 miles per gallon by 2020. the bill before us today includes a low carbon fuel standard

Thomas Carper

1:18:03 to 1:18:15( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and funding for srefpg alternative fuels. let me look at this chart here h on my left. this line right here shows what co2 emissions are from our car, truck and srab fleet starting -- and van vleet

Thomas Carper

1:18:15 to 1:18:25( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: starting in -- van vleet starting in 2005. by 2020 here is where we end up with co2 emissions from cars, trubz and vans. great progress. unfortunately, if we keep driving more every year, the great reduction

Thomas Carper

1:18:25 to 1:18:35( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: recognized here is going to end up with no reduction at all unless we do something about vehicle miles traveled rather than continue to see that grow as it has over the last decade. living in sprawling

Thomas Carper

1:18:35 to 1:18:46( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: areas without transit literally can double a family's greenhouse gas emissions. the negative consequences go beyond impacting our environment. with gas approaching $4 a gallon -- -- in fact some

Thomas Carper

1:18:46 to 1:18:54( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: places above -- it costs a lost money. public transportation saved at americans froman an additional 286 86 million hours of souitting in traffic. so we included a provision in this bill -- senatorardin

Thomas Carper

1:18:54 to 1:19:05( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: was very active on this front -- to use some of the proceeds to provide people with an alternative to driving, additional alternatives for people to drive. this provision in the bill would provide transit

Thomas Carper

1:19:05 to 1:19:14( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: to more commuters and expand transit where it already exists. it is good for the environment, our pocketbooks. while this version is important, i think we need to find a way to give communities

Thomas Carper

1:19:14 to 1:19:27( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: a greater say in how they can spend their transit dollars. transit is needed across our nation. however, many communities would benefit from improved bike and pedestrian infrastructure, be they sidewalks,

Thomas Carper

1:19:27 to 1:19:37( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: be they crosswalks, bicycle lanes, you name it. in rural areas, increased freight rail capacity might be the most effective way to reduce vehicle pollution. ideally, i think we ought to leave

Thomas Carper

1:19:37 to 1:19:48( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: it to local communitiales to determ ine which strategy workstr best for them. and, therefore, allow all communities to make steps -- to take steps to addresshis portion of transportation pollution.

Thomas Carper

1:19:48 to 1:19:58( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: having s aid that, the provisions in this bill are a good first attempt to address this problem. we ought to do those, but i think we can do more and should do more. as the only member of the senate

Thomas Carper

1:19:58 to 1:20:10( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: who serves on all three transportation-related committees, i look forward to attempting to bring those three committees together mmto create aat comprehensive approach to reducing carbon emissions from

Thomas Carper

1:20:10 to 1:20:21( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the transportation sector before we address climate change next year. mr. president, how much timene do i have left, please? the presiding officer: 3 1/2 minutes. mr. carper: thank you. in closing,

Thomas Carper

1:20:21 to 1:20:33( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: i appreciate the significant progress that's been made already to improve this legislation. i applaud the efforts of my colleagues, senators boxer, lieberman and warner, three of the finest people

Thomas Carper

1:20:33 to 1:20:45( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: we have here, and the work that they and their staffs and our staffs have done. the authors of the bill can be proud and their staffs, our staffs are to be commended. we're seeing companies like dupont

Thomas Carper

1:20:45 to 1:20:56( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: show vision to develop a business plan for operating in a carbon-constrained economy. we've seen states like california and delaware and a bunch of others take action to reduce our carbon emissions. what we haven't

Thomas Carper

1:20:56 to 1:21:08( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: seen yet is leadership from our federal government. while we continue to do nothing or too little, our international competitors are already developing new technologies and preparing for the future. president

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: john kennedy once said "there are risks and costs to a program of action. but they are far less than the long-range risks and costs of comfortable inaction." i recognize despite the hard work of our

Thomas Carper

1:21:16 to 1:21:26( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: staffs and leadership on this issue there is a goodoo chance this conversation will need to continue next year. it will and it should. if we ultimately are unable to find common ground this year. that

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: is why i'm committed to joining senators boxer and lieberman in bringing together all involved interests and parties to forge a path toward a solution tha s that can pass the congress early in

Thomas Carper

1:21:34 to 1:21:46( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the next administration. as members of the united states senate we have a responsibility to ensure our country provides leadership for the world in which we live on any number of fronts. the time

Thomas Carper

1:21:46 to 1:21:59( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: has come for us to fulfill that responsibility with respect to tkpwhrorpblg. let me close with this, mr. president.. ~ is this a political exercise. they're going to offer amendments that try to imbears ea one side

Thomas Carper

1:21:59 to 1:22:12( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: or the -- embarrass one side or the other to ensure that we don't get anything done. it ties in knots and we'll leave this legislation behind at the end of the week or sometime next week. i think it

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would be unfortunate. the american people know that we have a problem. the problem is the planet ont which we live is gettinget warmer. if we don't do something about it, eventually we'll not be able

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to turn it around. it is important to get serious on this. the american people want to figure out here how to work together. and our next president, whoever he or she might be. whoever the next president

Thomas Carper

1:22:33 to 1:22:47( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: is will provide us with much stronger, more positive leadership on this front. and it's incumbent on all of us, democrats and republicans, and that one independent, to figure out how we can work c with that

Thomas Carper

1:22:47 to 1:22:58( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: next president and with ourselves. with folks in the business community, with folks in the environmental community to come up with a plan of action to reduce and eventually eliminate the threat that global

Thomas Carper

1:22:58 to 1:23:13( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: warming poses to our planet. but to do so in a way that really seizes on what thomas edison said, some people do actually miss out on opportunity because it comes along wearing overalls an is disguise

Thomas Carper

1:23:13 to 1:23:25( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: -- and is disguised and looks a lot like work. we should seize the day. in our state carpe diem. with that mr. president, i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the senator from missouri. a senator:

Thomas Carper

1:23:25 to 1:23:35( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: mr. president, good morning. mr. bond: let's. be clear as we begin this discussion and i, along with i think a vast majority of my colleagues, suppt cutting carbonn emissions. we want to cut down

Thomas Carper

1:23:35 to 1:23:48( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: on any air poll ution we have. we have done a great job over the years of improving our air and we need to do more. but we must cut carbon without raising prices on gasoline, on diesel, on electricity,

Thomas Carper

1:23:48 to 1:24:03( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and all a of the things that drive our economy. at a time when american families are suffering record pain at the pump, hom e mortgage crisis, a soft economy, this is not the time to put the government

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: in a position of raising energy prices far higher than anything we've ever seen. how much would lieberman-warner raise energy prices? well, we can quote from the sponsors of o the legislation themselves.

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: this is what the junior senator from california has said lieberman-warner would raise -- warner would raise, $6,735 00, 000,000. as we saw and see again, too big to fit on any one board. but. all of the

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: bill sponsors claim that they're trying to get energy companies with the cost of this company. does anybody doubt what will l happen when you increase prices on -- on -- increase taxes on producers?

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: that has to be passed on. it will be passed on to families, workers, farmers, truckers in the form of higher energy bills and more pain at the pump. the bill sponsor -- they intend in the form of $800

Thomas Carper

1:24:52 to 1:25:04( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: billion in tax relief and $900 billion to utilities to help consumers. that would still mean over $1.7 trillion was returned to an american public paying paying $6.7 trillion in highetrr energy costs. that's

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: a $5 trillion loss. and even that under the complicated soviet-style scheme would be based on the wisdom of some small group of bureaucratic czars who would decide who gets the money.ey it seems that they

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: are writing congress out of the responsibility of handling the treasu ry. they want to go around and turn a bunch of small group of wisemen into the one who's decide who gets the allowances who gets

Thomas Carper

1:25:23 to 1:25:34( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the relief, and where any relief will go the problem with the $6.7 trillion in higher energy prices is that gas prices are already at record levels. gas prices topped $4 in many parts of the country

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: and are approaching that and the rest of them and drivers are suffering at the pump. i was back in missouri and traveled all over state from one corner to the other over the memorial day recess. and i

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: heard firsthand from commuters, drivers, farmers, average citizens, businesses that are looking at a absolute catastrophe from these higher energy prices. they're all fed up with higher gas prices.

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: and regrettably, as i have said before, higher gas prices, higher diesel prices are the result of congress action -- or inaction in blocking for 30 years the production of new energy in the united

Thomas Carper

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Thomas Carper: states. i visited truck stops in jobli narched southwest missouri, and palmira, i heard from truckers about the record diesel prices, things are getting so bad, some are laying off drivers, some are

Thomas Carper

1:26:36 to 1:26:55( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: by 53 cents per gallon by 2030 and by $1.40 per gallon by 2050. now, the supporters of this bill try to tell us this is no big deal, it represents two cents a year a good statistician can try and make

Thomas Carper

1:26:38 to 1:26:59( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: going out of business. this is a real problem for our country. when truckers suffer, we all suffer. if they go out of business, we won't have the trucks to deliver the goods. transportation costs make

Thomas Carper

1:26:55 to 1:27:12( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: any number look not quite so bad. i can't speak for folks in other states, but i can tell you that the folks back home have a minimum amount of high enthusiasm for congress taking more action to raise

Thomas Carper

1:26:59 to 1:27:13( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: up a part of the cost -- a significant part of the costs of almost every consumer item. when diesel prices go up, prices go up, families will pay, and in many areas we may not have the trucking infrastructure

Thomas Carper

1:27:12 to 1:27:23( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: prices. $1.40 is $1.40 and that increase in the price of gasoline is totally unacceptable particularly when it comes with the increase in prices in all other forms of energy. that is the path that the

Thomas Carper

1:27:13 to 1:27:30( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: to deliver the goods we need. now, how muc h will lieberman-warner increase our as pain at the a pump? the environmental protection agency estimates that lieberman-warner will increase gas prices

Thomas Carper

1:27:23 to 1:27:38( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: supporters of this legislation want us to try. now, some senators say that since gasoline prices have risen 82 cents since the beginning of the year,e it's ok that this bill will only raise prices another

Thomas Carper

1:27:30 to 1:27:49( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: by 53 cents per gallon by 2030 and by $1.40 per gallon by 2050. now, the supporters of this bill try to tell us this is no big deal, it represents two cents a year a good statistician can try and make

Thomas Carper

1:27:38 to 1:27:50( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: 53 cents to $1.40. does anybody sdotop and think that we're going in the wrong direction? we ought to be talking about what we can do to increase supply to bringpp those prices down, not figure out

Thomas Carper

1:27:49 to 1:28:06( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: any number look not quite so bad. i can't speak for folks in other states, but i can tell you that the folks back home have a minimum amount of high enthusiasm for congress taking more action to raise

Thomas Carper

1:27:50 to 1:28:13( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: how to come up with a scheme that's going to increase those prices even more. to say -- i find the logic a little bit disturbing if you can call it that. 82-cent gas price over the past year has not

Thomas Carper

1:28:06 to 1:28:17( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: prices. $1.40 is $1.40 and that increase in the price of gasoline is totally unacceptable particularly when it comes with the increase in prices in all other forms of energy. that is the path that the

Thomas Carper

1:28:13 to 1:28:34( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: been ok with the peheople in my state. a further 53-cent increase by 2030 in gas prices is not ok. a further $1.40 increase in gas prices is not ok with the people in missouri. and can i tell you

Thomas Carper

1:28:17 to 1:28:32( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: supporters of this legislation want us to try. now, some senators say that since gasoline prices have risen 82 cents since the beginning of the year,e it's ok that this bill will only raise prices another

Thomas Carper

1:28:32 to 1:28:44( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: 53 cents to $1.40. does anybody sdotop and think that we're going in the wrong direction? we ought to be talking about what we can do to increase supply to bringpp those prices down, not figure out

Thomas Carper

1:28:34 to 1:28:49( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: that if we don't change the path thath we're w onon now, the increase in prices will be even greater.er the bill sponsors even say that the demand for oil will go down under lieberman-warner. such a claim

Thomas Carper

1:28:44 to 1:29:07( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: how to come up with a scheme that's going to increase those prices even more. to say -- i find the logic a little bit disturbing if you can call it that. 82-cent gas price over the past year has not

Thomas Carper

1:28:49 to 1:29:05( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: seems fan tass kal until -- fantastic until you discover the sources that he cites, the study -- looking at the copy of the study, it shows that it was guide bid the closehe involvem ent of the natural

Thomas Carper

1:29:05 to 1:29:20( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: resources defenseur council. they'r e the ones behind it. the nrdc study use bid the t other side assume that's we will get 50% to 60% of the energy by 2050 from renewable sources such as wind and

Thomas Carper

1:29:07 to 1:29:28( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: been ok with the peheople in my state. a further 53-cent increase by 2030 in gas prices is not ok. a further $1.40 increase in gas prices is not ok with the people in missouri. and can i tell you

Thomas Carper

1:29:20 to 1:29:31( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: solar. i'm all for clean wind and solar power. nobody our right mind believe b that weth will generate 50% of our power from wind and solar. that just isn't going to happen. you talk to the experts

Thomas Carper

1:29:28 to 1:29:43( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: that if we don't change the path thath we're w onon now, the increase in prices will be even greater.er the bill sponsors even say that the demand for oil will go down under lieberman-warner. such a claim

Thomas Carper

1:29:31 to 1:29:44( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and i'vtse listened to experts. experts who are -- who are very knowledgeable about biofuels an others, and they say -- and others, and they say, look, biofuels can help, wind and solar can help at

Thomas Carper

1:29:43 to 1:29:59( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: seems fan tass kal until -- fantastic until you discover the sources that he cites, the study -- looking at the copy of the study, it shows that it was guide bid the closehe involvem ent of the natural

Thomas Carper

1:29:44 to 1:29:52( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the margins, but we will still depend on fossil fuel for most of our energy cost, particularlyrl the transtaition costs. on oil -- transportation costs. on oil demand, the nrcd predicts that the

Thomas Carper

1:29:52 to 1:30:01( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: fleet efficiency for cars an light trucks will go up to 52 miles per hour. congress just finished raising cafe standards to 35 miles per hour. and now the nrdc say no problem, we'll move it up to

Thomas Carper

1:29:59 to 1:30:14( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: resources defenseur council. they'r e the ones behind it. the nrdc study use bid the t other side assume that's we will get 50% to 60% of the energy by 2050 from renewable sources such as wind and

Thomas Carper

1:30:01 to 1:30:13( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: 52 miles per hour. 52 miles per hour would mean that we would have a fleet of golf carts hauling our produce. i wonder how manyho golf cfarts it would take a farmer to deliver the hay to cattle in the

Thomas Carper

1:30:13 to 1:30:28( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: feel. how many golf carts to pull a wagon full of corn? how many golf carts to take a large family to school to see family? a fleet o f golf carts is a -- a wonderful thing. the nrdc say that'ss we'll

Thomas Carper

1:30:14 to 1:30:25( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: solar. i'm all for clean wind and solar power. nobody our right mind believe b that weth will generate 50% of our power from wind and solar. that just isn't going to happen. you talk to the experts

Thomas Carper

1:30:25 to 1:30:38( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and i'vtse listened to experts. experts who are -- who are very knowledgeable about biofuels an others, and they say -- and others, and they say, look, biofuels can help, wind and solar can help at

Thomas Carper

1:30:28 to 1:30:42( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: get 52 miles per p hour per gallon by moving to hybrid and plug-in vehicles. hi i'm a big fan of the potential of hybrid cars using advanced vehicle technology. these are the te hings that we ought

Thomas Carper

1:30:38 to 1:30:46( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the margins, but we will still depend on fossil fuel for most of our energy cost, particularlyrl the transtaition costs. on oil -- transportation costs. on oil demand, the nrcd predicts that the

1:30:42 to 1:30:54( Edit History Discussion )

to work for. overov the recess as part of the six-city tour in missouri, i mentioned earlier, i visited the ford assembly plant in kansas city, where they make the hybrid s.u.v. kansas city is a leader

1:30:46 to 1:30:55( Edit History Discussion )

fleet efficiency for cars an light trucks will go up to 52 miles per hour. congress just finished raising cafe standards to 35 miles per hour. and now the nrdc say no problem, we'll move it up to

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