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Senate Proceeding on Jun 6th, 2011 :: 2:53:20 to 3:31:50
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Jeff Sessions

2:53:09 to 2:53:30( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: senate to deal with the crisis that we are facing both economically and really financially as part of our economic condition. you can't separate those two. the leading economic indicators are not good. last week, we were pummelled

Jeff Sessions

2:53:20 to 3:31:50( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Jeff Sessions

Jeff Sessions

2:53:31 to 2:53:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: with a series of reports that were bad news. the numbers continue to be disturbing, actually. the share of our population that is employed today declined to 58.4%, the lowest level since 1983. so the percentage of people

Jeff Sessions

2:53:52 to 2:54:12( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: working today is the lowest we have had since 1983. the may jobs report that just came in fell well short of projections. the consensus view of economists was for a gain of 167,000 jobs,

Jeff Sessions

2:54:13 to 2:54:34( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: but, in fact, we fewer than that. we had a very low job creation month, and it marks one of the -- the worst jobs eight months. everybody has been saying that things are getting better, getting better and jobs are getting better, but this is a wake-up call.

Jeff Sessions

2:54:35 to 2:54:56( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the numbers have not been strong. they have actually been very fragile. the jobs have to increase about 180,000 a month to actually stay level, and to begin to increase, you have to be above that, reduce our unemployment rate. it has to be above 180,000.

Jeff Sessions

2:54:57 to 2:55:18( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and so we were far below that this month. the percentage of people who are long-term unemployed, who have been unemployed for 27 weeks or more, jumped nearly two percentage points to 45.1%. the unemployment rate increased to 9.1% from 9%. however, the unemployment rate

Jeff Sessions

2:55:19 to 2:55:40( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: does not take into account those who are underemployed or who may have become discouraged, and that's why we have such a low percentage of people working. many are discouraged and have given up looking for work. since its peak of 12,800, the

Jeff Sessions

2:55:41 to 2:56:02( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: dow jones industrial average hit 12,800. it's down now 698 points, more than 5% over the last week, and i believe this is the sixth consecutive week that the dow has declined. consumer confidence is also deteriorating. the consumer confidence survey is down 12 points from its peak

Jeff Sessions

2:56:03 to 2:56:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: in just february, it has been steadily downward. the consumer expectations about the future are even worse, falling more than 20 points in the last three months from 97.5 to 75.2. and the last time we experienced a three-month drop in consumer confidence of more than 20 points was march, 2008, during

Jeff Sessions

2:56:25 to 2:56:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the heart of the great recession. the misery index which combines the unemployment rate with the one-year change in inflation growth hit 12.2%, the highest level in a year. those are grim statistics indeed.

Jeff Sessions

2:56:47 to 2:57:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: i'm looking at baron's, the lead editorial by mr. abelson, just in today's barron's. these are some of the things he expressed unease about, very serious concern in his lead column for the barron's publication.

Jeff Sessions

2:57:09 to 2:57:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: he quotes a report from the -- the liseo report, phillipa dunning and doug henward reports, and he quoted from their signals. more than a little shocking to phillipa and doug and to us as well, referring to himself, is that private employment today is

Jeff Sessions

2:57:32 to 2:57:54( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: 2% below where it stood ten years ago. and as they have noted before, job loss over a ten-year period is unprecedented. in other words, over ten years, we have 2% fewer people working. the first time we have ever identified a ten-year period in

Jeff Sessions

2:57:55 to 2:58:16( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: our history, he goes back to 1890, that we have actually seen a decline in employment over ten years. so far -- and i'm quoting him now -- they point out somewhat grimly -- quote -- "we've regained just 1.8 million jobs

Jeff Sessions

2:58:17 to 2:58:42( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: lost in the great recession and its aftermath or about one in five." so we lost -- we only recovered about one in five of the jobs. we have been reading that job growth is out there but it hasn't been much. it's been anemic. and so are g.d.p. growth.

Jeff Sessions

2:58:43 to 2:59:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: he goes on to note that the number of people out of work this month increased by 167,000, and a goodly number of those, 44.6%, to be precise, have been unemployed for 27 weeks or longer, within crying distance

Jeff Sessions

2:59:04 to 2:59:27( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: of an all-time high. the average stay in the ranks of jobless has reached the longest in the postwar period, and that's world war ii. so that's the longest time we have gone with half the people -- almost half the people being unemployed for at least 27

Jeff Sessions

2:59:28 to 2:59:48( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: weeks, so it's not a good situation. and we have tried, the federal reserve has tried, the congress rammed through a bill that didn't work. i felt it wouldn't work. i explained why at that time, but it passed anyway, adding almost $800 billion, $900 billion of our total debt to our country.

Jeff Sessions

2:59:49 to 3:00:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: every penny of that was borrowed, and it hasn't worked, but we'll pay interest on it. last year, our highway spending was the interest on that stimulus bill will be almost that much. forever, i suppose, unless we find some way to start paying down our debt, and there is no plan on the table to reduce our

Jeff Sessions

3:00:11 to 3:00:36( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: debt in the immediate future. that's for sure. so what would i say about where we are today? i believe that this congress cannot financial situation in which 40 cents of every dollar we spend is borrowed.

Jeff Sessions

3:00:37 to 3:00:58( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: we take in -- we spend spend $3.7 trillion -- excuse me. we take in $2.2 trillion and we're spending $3.7 trillion. every economist has told us in the budget committee -- i'm ranking republican there -- this is unsustainable. was too high -- $450 billion --

Jeff Sessions

3:00:59 to 3:01:20( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the two budgets now on under president obama have been $1.2 billion, $1.3 trillion and this year we expect it to be $1.5 trillion in debt added to our debt. double the entire debt of the united states in four years of his leadership. and his budget that he submitted

Jeff Sessions

3:01:21 to 3:01:42( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to us earlier this year makes the situation worse. if you take the basic trajectory of congressional budget office, the president's budget, even though it raises taxes, raises spending more and actually put us on a more unsustainable path than otherwise would be the case and over the ten-year budget

Jeff Sessions

3:01:43 to 3:02:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: that he proposes, the lowest single deficit is $740 billion, and in the year eight, nine, and ten, it's going up to $1 trillion in the tenth year. these are systemic, unsustainable deficits and they've got to be confronted, and we've got to reduce spending.

Jeff Sessions

3:02:04 to 3:02:25( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: everybody knows that. but we're not willing to do soavment the democratic leader, when we had the continuing resolution and a debate over how much to spend the rest of this fiscal year, he proposed a $4 billion reduction in spending. and our deficit will be $1,500,000,000,000 this year.

Jeff Sessions

3:02:26 to 3:02:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: he proposed to cut $4 billion. after some much fight and the house passed a $60 billion or $70 billion in spending reductions through the rest of the year and the senate finally, under the democratic leaders here, got it down to about $30-some-odd -- $35 billion, i believe.

Jeff Sessions

3:02:47 to 3:03:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: we're not facing up to the reality. what do you do? the fed has cut interest rates to zero. we're spending unlimited amounts of money. we tried all kinds of gimmicks and efforts, reducing social security tax, other things that have tried to create growth in the economy. it hasn't worked.

Jeff Sessions

3:03:11 to 3:03:33( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: i suggest part of the problem the deficit itself. have written a book. "this tiements different." and in their analysis when your debt equals 90% or more of your economy, you will show at least a 1% reduction in economic

Jeff Sessions

3:03:34 to 3:03:54( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: growth for that year. this year our debt is already about 95% of g.d.p. will be 100% of g.d.p. by september 30. so over the first quarter growth numbers were 1.8% growth below what had originally been projected.

Jeff Sessions

3:03:55 to 3:04:16( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: that was a reanalysis of it. 1.8 according to their theory. it would be 2.8%, 2.8% growth if we didn't have debt in excess of 90% of the gross domestic product. and i asked secretary of treasury geithner at the budget

Jeff Sessions

3:04:17 to 3:04:38( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: hearing, did he agree with the rogoff-reinhart study, which has received quite a bit of attention and a great deal of respectful attention. he said he did. he said in some ways the situation is worse than that suggests, because we could have an economic crisis. when your debt-to-g.d.p. is 90% or 100%, this is how you can

Jeff Sessions

3:04:39 to 3:05:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: have a circumstance like -- somewhat like we had perhaps with the financial meltdown or like they're having in greece. so we've been warned by the fiscal commission, chairman and cochairman appointed by president obama, mr. erskine bowles and alan simpson, they testified and said we're facing the most predictable economic

Jeff Sessions

3:05:02 to 3:05:25( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: crisis in our nation's history. the most predictable. and when asked when it might happen, mr. bowles said, two years give or take. so we don't know what's going to happen. i think we've got to just grow

Jeff Sessions

3:05:26 to 3:05:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: up, realize that we have placed our nation in financ jeopardy, that this country has spent money in did not have to a degree greater than this nation has ever spent before except maybe in the height of world war ii when the entire nation was in

Jeff Sessions

3:05:47 to 3:06:09( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: a life-and-death struggle. we've never spent this kind of money. we've never had these kind of deficits. many remember the big fight over spending in the mid-1990's and resulted in the balancing of the budget in the late-1990's. that was a much simpler problem than we've got today.

Jeff Sessions

3:06:10 to 3:06:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: i've ated at the numbers. to get this country to a balanced budget is going to take some very, very serious, sustained work. it is going to be much more significant than it was in the mid-1990's. and we simply cannot grow this comirks which is the key to getting ourselves out of the

Jeff Sessions

3:06:32 to 3:06:57( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: miss we're in. we can't grow it by passing your taxes. we can't do that. and congress has got to step up to the plate. and i will remain extremely disappointed that the majority here in the senate did not even bring a budget to the floor last year.

Jeff Sessions

3:07:00 to 3:07:20( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: we're now 750, 760-some-odd days without having a budget. that's one reason why we're spend so much money. we don't even have a budget. it was not even brought to the floor last year. into the single appropriations bill was brought to the floor and passed last year.

Jeff Sessions

3:07:21 to 3:07:42( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: since i've been here -- and i guess in 20 or more years our democratic majority had the largest majority any senate has ever had. they had 60 votes last year in the senate. it only takes 50 to pass a budget. you don't need -- you can pass a budget without a supermajority, without a filibuster. it's designed to make sure we pass a budget because it's

Jeff Sessions

3:07:43 to 3:08:05( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: needed that we pass a budget. but it wasn't even brought up last year. and so what about this year? we've not even marked one up. we've not had a hearing in the budget committee to mark up a budget. and under the budget act, the budget is supposed to be passed by april 15. the house has budget,

Jeff Sessions

3:08:06 to 3:08:26( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: an historic budget, a sound budget. it changes the unsustainable trajectory we're on. it's spofnlgt it's gotten widespread, bipartisan applause for being a serious attempt to confront the financial crisis that we are facing and the senate has not produced

Jeff Sessions

3:08:27 to 3:08:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: anything. indeed, my good friend -- and he's got a tough job -- our majority leader, harry reid, has said it would be foolish to pass a budget. and his staff said something similar to the press. foolish to pass a budget? foolish to pass a budget?

Jeff Sessions

3:08:48 to 3:09:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: what did he mean by that? would it be against the american interest to pass a budget? would it make our country less strong financially if we passed a budget? would it be less responsible to not pass a budget? than to pass a one?

Jeff Sessions

3:09:09 to 3:09:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: i don't think so. actually, i don't think that's what he meant. what he meant was it would be foolish politically to pass a budget. so he didn't bring one on the floor last year when he had 60 senators, got 53 now. he's not going to bring one up again this year. it would be foolish to.

Jeff Sessions

3:09:30 to 3:09:50( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: why? because when you produce a budget, you have to set forth for the entire world, financial world, american people, and the political world, the individual citizens of this republic what your plans are for the future. what are we going to do?

Jeff Sessions

3:09:51 to 3:10:11( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: how much are we going to spend? how much are we going to tax? how much deficit will be created or surplus, if one is to be found -- it is not going to be found soon, a surplus, trust me. i've looked at numbers. but we've got to get on the right path. and so he thinks that's foolish.

Jeff Sessions

3:10:12 to 3:10:36( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: i guess because, well, if he produced a budget, he split to cut spending -- he might have to cut spending and somebody might complain. if he produced a budget, as what is consistent with what some of my tax-and-spend friends believe, that might not be popular. so since it's not popular, we're

Jeff Sessions

3:10:37 to 3:10:57( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: just not going to do t it. while we've got the lowest number of people working in in economy since 1983, and we're 2% lee low the number of people -- below the number of people actually working ten years ago,

Jeff Sessions

3:10:58 to 3:11:18( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: this change in tax-and-spend idea of how to make an economy grow not sound. we've tried it. it was done over my objection, but it was done. we threw money at this economy, the lisks which we've never seen before. now, the brits

Jeff Sessions

3:11:19 to 3:11:41( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: reducing their spending. they are a making some tough choices in the u.k. some have been pushing back. they're having riots in greece where people are saying you're cutting back spending too much. we've got to have this money. but what did the international monetary fund say today -- i believe it was today?

Jeff Sessions

3:11:42 to 3:12:02( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they said, the u. crks the brits, stay the course, stay with your fiscal responsibility, that was initiated by the new conservative government. don't go back to spending. don't adopt can create something out of nothing by borrowing money,

Jeff Sessions

3:12:03 to 3:12:23( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: money you don't have. and, of course, julie andrews laid that out in her song i thought, and always rember, "nothing comings from nothing, nothing ever could." you can't borrow your way out of debt, as one person in evergreen told me his granddaddy said.

Jeff Sessions

3:12:24 to 3:12:44( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: we have got to face the music. we don't have the money to operate at the level we are. i was at a town meeting in marion, alabama, and an elderly gentleman said he lived through the depression, he lived through world war ii, he lived through

Jeff Sessions

3:12:45 to 3:13:06( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the great inflation surge in the 1970's, and he sees this other challenge we face today. and he said, the problem is not the high cost of living. the problem is the cost of living too high. that just sort of closed the meeting. he was the last one to speak.

Jeff Sessions

3:13:07 to 3:13:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and i thought that was a real silence there. the cost of living too high. we've just been living on the idea that these brilliant people in the fed and the treasury and all, that they can just borrow money and spend it today, and that'll make the economy flower, and we'll all be successful and we don't have to worry about paying it off.

Jeff Sessions

3:13:30 to 3:13:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: what's a little debt? well, we went down that road, and it's gotten completely out of control. and we can't sustain we're at a point where our debt threatens our economic growth. according to rogoff and rhine harkts it's already reducing our debt by 1%. and if we had 2% growth for the

Jeff Sessions

3:13:52 to 3:14:13( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: year, if we have 2% growth this year instead of 1.8%, as we did the first quarter, that means a million more people employed. 1% growth, economists tell us, is equal to a million people employed. you get 3%, 4%, 5% growth, like we ought to have coming out of a

Jeff Sessions

3:14:14 to 3:14:35( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: recession, then you can have millions of jobs created and change this direction of our country. but we've gone -- we've used every weapon we have except common sense and sound policy. so what do we do? how do we get out of the mess we're in? how do we -- it's not going to be an easy road, but we need to

Jeff Sessions

3:14:36 to 3:14:56( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: reduce spending. we have increased spending in the last two years -- first two years under president obama -- 24% in discretionary non-defense spending. we can't cut that back. to where we were on a previous date. is the united states of america

Jeff Sessions

3:14:57 to 3:15:17( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: going to cease to exist if we reduce spending? we're going to have to. we don't have the money. now, we do that if we get this -- we send a message to the world like the people in england have, we understand the problem, we know we've gone too far, we're going to get on the right road, we're going to put a

Jeff Sessions

3:15:18 to 3:15:38( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: shoulder to the wheerlings and we're going to lift this country forward and put it on a sound path, we can do that. we will do that. that's what the american people said they wanted, i'm convinced, in this last election. they want some responsibility here, and we owe it to them.

Jeff Sessions

3:15:39 to 3:16:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and i hope and pray that we can come together and make some significant changes in the way that we spend money and the amount of debt that we've got. yes, it might be tough for awhile, but we'll get on the right path. we'll get this country going in the right direction.

Jeff Sessions

3:16:02 to 3:16:23( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: so, when you're confused about the future, nobody knows exactly what to do, i think it's time to take a deep breath and go back to the old truths that nothing comes from nothing. hard work pays off. borrowing, borrowing, borrowing is a road to disaster. you need to start paying down your debts.

Jeff Sessions

3:16:24 to 3:16:45( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the kind of things we tell our children every day, this nation needs to do. and if the world, and if the business community and our country saw us in that direction, nothing could be better for our economic growth. they would say the united states of america is finally got it. they got their heads on right. they are making decisions that

Jeff Sessions

3:16:46 to 3:17:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: will lay a foundation for sound, positive growth in the future. and they're not trying to get their way out of the problem they're in by something for nothing; some gimmick. i thank the chair and would yield the floo ab the presiding officer: the

Jeff Sessions

3:17:09 to 3:17:14( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: clerk will call the roll.

Jeff Sessions

3:19:04 to 3:19:25( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: quorum call: with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. sessions: mr. president, i'd like to share some brief thoughts about the nomination of donald verrilli to be solicitor general of the united states. solicitor general has been called the greatest lawyer job in the world. it's the position in the department of justice that represents the united states in

Jeff Sessions

3:19:26 to 3:19:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: appellate courts, the supreme court. and as they said again, there is no higher honor than to appear in the highest court in the land and be able to announce that you represent the united states of america. and that's what the solicitor general gets to do and supervises that. it's a very important position.

Jeff Sessions

3:19:48 to 3:20:09( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: it requires integrity, independence, commitment to law. and mr. verrilli, by the account of quite a number of people, is a experience in appellate

Jeff Sessions

3:20:10 to 3:20:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and is respected as to his integrity and his legal ability. i say that because i'm not going to be able to vote for him today, but what i'm saying about him is not to be personal in any way. and i can disagree with someone about their approach to law and still sometimes be able to vote for them. and

Jeff Sessions

3:20:32 to 3:20:52( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: president's nominees. i supported attorney general holder for attorney general. but what i want to say is that we're in a struggle internationally with most virulent form of terrorism that

Jeff Sessions

3:20:53 to 3:21:13( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: has been declared by virtually al and we're involved in a war on terrorism. that's just what it is. bin laden and the people who attacked us on 9/11 has war against the united states. they officially said they were at war with us.

Jeff Sessions

3:21:14 to 3:21:35( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: and our president on occasion has said, acknowledged that we're at war. and congress has authorized the use of military force in iraq, afghanistan and against al qaeda. we've authorized. we haven't in libya, but we have in those instances. and so the department of justice, for which i was honored

Jeff Sessions

3:21:36 to 3:21:57( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: to be a member for 15 years as a federal prosecutor and united states attorney in alabama for 12, really loved that great department, believe in it deeply, am troubled by the extent to which it's being led by people who have a unwise understanding of the nature of

Jeff Sessions

3:21:58 to 3:22:19( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the struggle that we're in. and one of the ways this plays itself out is to conclude that an al qaeda person, if bin laden hadn't been killed, presumably, he was presumptively to be tried in civilian courts like a normal criminal. but under the rules of war,

Jeff Sessions

3:22:20 to 3:22:42( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: under the rules and history of the united states, under our constitution and laws, it's perfectly permissible to capture an enemy combatant who's threatening you and to put them in jail and detain them just like all prisoners of wars have been detained until the conflict is you don't give them a trial.

Jeff Sessions

3:22:43 to 3:23:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they are not entitled to lawyers. they're not entitled to go before judges. they're prisoners of war and are held in prisoners of war camps. they have to treated. they cannot be tortured. we have a specific statute about that. and i know that some instances people say it's torture and some

Jeff Sessions

3:23:04 to 3:23:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: say it's not. but that's not the situation today. we're not close to the line of what's torturing anybody that's being held in custody today. so the the department of justice say?

Jeff Sessions

3:23:25 to 3:23:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they made the statement that these individuals need to be tried in civilian courts, and congress, after several years of battle finally passed a law to prohibit funding of any civilian trial of any of the 9/11 people that have been captured. some have been knelled prisons

Jeff Sessions

3:23:47 to 3:24:07( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: in -- have been held in prisons in guantanamo. they have to be tried if they are to be tried by military commissions. military commissions are historic. in world war ii nazi saboteurs came by submarine, attempted to enter the united states and bomb and blow up our places.

Jeff Sessions

3:24:08 to 3:24:28( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they were captured; a trial was held within a few weeks by the military, and most of them were executed promptly. and supreme court and ex-party held that was perfectly appropriate. you can't try a normal prisoner of war and execute them.

Jeff Sessions

3:24:29 to 3:24:49( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: you cannot do that. if a prisoner of war, however, violates the rules of war and commits crimes above and beyond the rules of war, then they can be tried and punished appropriately. the 9/11 conspirators and the war on terrorist people are committed consistently and

Jeff Sessions

3:24:50 to 3:25:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: totally to violating the rules of war. they attack men and women -- innocent men and women and children. they attack noncombatants. that's all prohibited by the rules of war. they don't wear uniforms. if you want to have the protections of the rule of war,

Jeff Sessions

3:25:11 to 3:25:32( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: you have to wear your uniform when you go into combat. and if you're captured, you have to be treated as a prisoner of war. but if you've been sneaking into the united states surreptitiously with a plot and plan to bomb and murder innocent men and women and children, you've committed a and so they can be detained as a

Jeff Sessions

3:25:33 to 3:25:56( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: prisoner of war and can be tried by the military as the war criminals they are. so this has been a big battle. and we went through it for years. and on the judiciary committee of which i'm a member, we had quite a bit of discussion about it in hearings after hearings, and we somehow tragically

Jeff Sessions

3:25:57 to 3:26:18( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: convinced the world that american military torturing people at guantanamo, and it was not so. the people that have been found were waterboarded and that sort of thing. it was not done at guantanamo and it was not done by the u.s. military. zero. at any rate, we had all those debates and all those fusses and

Jeff Sessions

3:26:19 to 3:26:40( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: we had lawsuits filed, and people complained about president bush and all his policies. and you remember that. so now we're here with a series of people being appointed to the leadership of the department of justice, the law enforcement agency, the top prosecutors in

Jeff Sessions

3:26:41 to 3:27:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: the country, those positions being filled by the people not that were prosecuting terrorists, not that know something about it, not skilled professional prosecutors who know how to do this job. the top people are being filled with people who are protesters. attorney general holder himself

Jeff Sessions

3:27:02 to 3:27:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: has said these cases ought to be tried in civilian courts. the acting deputy attorney general, mr. cole, wrote an op-ed, i think in "the new york times" saying these were criminal matters, not military matters. the assistant attorney general for the civil division, tony

Jeff Sessions

3:27:25 to 3:27:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: west, defended american taliban. the acting solicitor general also was involved in some of these defense matters in advocating these positions. these are some of the top positions in the entire department of justice. the attorney general, deputy attorney general, civil division, and the acting now solicitor general, and the

Jeff Sessions

3:27:47 to 3:28:07( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: person that's nominated to fulfill -- fill that spot. so, mr. verrilli, i believe, is a good man. in normal circumstances, i would be willing to accept his nomination and vote for him.

Jeff Sessions

3:28:08 to 3:28:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: i'm not going to try to slow it down, glad cast my vote. i'm sure he'll be confirmed. but it's been reported in the media that president obama has now appointed 13 to 16 lawyers to high-ranking positions in the department who themselves previously represented alleged terrorists or their supporters or were senior partners at their

Jeff Sessions

3:28:30 to 3:28:50( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: law firms when their firms decided to accept alleged terrorists as clients. consistently, they support the view that terrorists are not -- are criminals and not unlawful combatants. that's all right to defend unpopular people, criminals that are unpopular.

Jeff Sessions

3:28:51 to 3:29:12( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: it's perfectly all right. but i just want to say as someone who loves the department, i am concerned about the positions they are taking on the question of the civilian trials of military combatants. i think it is wrong, and i have voted for the last one i'm going to vote for in positions of the

Jeff Sessions

3:29:13 to 3:29:35( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: department of justice who advocate that view. i think it places our nation at greater risk. we do not need to be treating these individuals in that fashion. as a practical matter, it works out this way, you apprehend the

Jeff Sessions

3:29:36 to 3:29:58( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: christmas day, christmas day bomber. if he's treated as a civilian, he has to be given his miranda rights within minutes of being arrested. told he can have a lawyer; he remains silent. he has to be appointed a lawyer promptly. he has to be taken before a magistrate promptly, letting all the other terrorists know he's been captured.

Jeff Sessions

3:29:59 to 3:30:20( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: he is entitled to discovery of the government's case in short order. and he is entitled to a speedy trial. all of those things are part and parcel of the civil process. but if they are captured as an unlawful combatant and held by the military, they can be held as a prisoner of war.

Jeff Sessions

3:30:21 to 3:30:41( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: they can be interrogated, not tortured. they can be interrogated over a period of months, weeks. they don't have to appoint a lawyer for them. and they can be tried if found to be in violation of the rules of war at guantanamo baby military commission -- guantanamo baby a military commission, which is what ought to happen in these cases. but that is not the position of

Jeff Sessions

3:30:42 to 3:31:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: this department of justice. they have been populated by people who have a different view of it, i think a wrong view, and so although i have great respect for mr. verrilli and his record, it seems to be a good record. the fact that he is another voice in the department for a

Jeff Sessions

3:31:04 to 3:31:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: wrong philosophy is something that i will protest against by voting "no." and i thank the chair and will yield the floor. the presiding officer: time has expired. mr. leahy: i ask for the yeas and nays. the presiding officer: question is on the nomination. mr. leahy: i ask for the yeas and nays. the presiding officer: is

Jeff Sessions

3:31:25 to 3:31:38( Edit History Discussion )

Jeff Sessions: there a sufficient second? there appears to be a second. the clerk will call the roll.

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