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Senate Proceeding on Jun 19th, 2008 :: 5:25:41 to 5:44:11
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John Sununu

5:21:37 to 5:25:41( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: John Sununu

John Sununu

5:25:29 to 5:25:41( Edit History Discussion )

John Sununu: senator sessions, be recognized. the presiding officer: without objection. a senator: mr. president? mr. kyl: thank you. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. kyl: thank you. over the last week

Thomas Carper

5:25:41 to 5:25:55( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: on our side, we've listened to some of our colleagues suggest that republicans have obstructed action on important matters here. i just want to make sure that with respect to protecting our seniors

Thomas Carper

5:25:41 to 5:44:11( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Thomas Carper

Thomas Carper

5:25:55 to 5:26:09( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: through the service of the medicare physicians that take care of them, that we are able to meet a deadline in the statue which expires at the end of this month to ensure that they continue to be paid.

Thomas Carper

5:26:09 to 5:26:32( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: one of my colleagues just yesterday said that senate republicans had refuseed to give senate democrats the opportunity to ensure quality health care for america's seniors. and yet, following those

Thomas Carper

5:26:32 to 5:26:47( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: remarks, the majority leader propound twaod unanimous propounded two unanimous consent request agreements that would have permitted us to have access to care. i'd be happy to yield to my colleague.

Thomas Carper

5:26:47 to 5:27:03( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: mr. durbin: i'd like to ask the senator from arizona how he voted on the motion for cloture to bring to the floor the medicaid -- medicare changes which he is now supporting?| mr. kyl: mr. president,

Thomas Carper

5:27:03 to 5:27:18( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: i would be happy to respond to my colleague, our proposals are to move forward with a bipartisan approach rather than the partisan approach which i opposed. i would like to suggest that we extend

Thomas Carper

5:27:18 to 5:27:34( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the existing law, which this senate overwhelmingly supported just six months ago, to extend for another 18 months a proposal that had been made by the chairman of the senate finance committee, and

Thomas Carper

5:27:34 to 5:27:48( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: would allow us to solve this problem, not in what partisan way, but in a bipartisan way. and therefore i would ask unanimous consent that the senate proceed to the immediate consideration of the senate

Thomas Carper

5:27:48 to 5:28:07( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: bill which i will send to the desk, it is a clean 18 month extension of the disease medicare bill. and ask unanimous consent that the bill be read a third time and passed, the motion to reconsider be

Thomas Carper

5:28:07 to 5:28:19( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: laid on the table. the presiding officer: is there objection? mr. durbin: i object and seek recognition. the presiding officer: objection is heard. mr. kyl: might i conclude a brief remark before the senate

Thomas Carper

5:28:19 to 5:28:34( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: from illinois proceeds? the presiding officer: the senator from arizona. mr. kyl: i want to express disappointment in this. because we're trying to allow the senate to move forward in a bipartisan

Thomas Carper

5:28:34 to 5:28:49( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: way to resolve the problem that we all need to resolve. and this would extend the existing law for another 18 months, something that i said had, in fact, been proposed by the chairman of the senate

Thomas Carper

5:28:49 to 5:29:05( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: finance committee. i'm disappointed that we're not able to do this. mr. durbin: mr. president? i ask unanimous consent to speak for two minutes and yield to the senator from alabama. a senator: i

Thomas Carper

5:29:05 to 5:29:23( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: withdraw my objection. the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. mr. durbin: mr. president, we're trying to bring this medicare issue to tishe floor for debate. nine republicans joined the democrats

Thomas Carper

5:29:23 to 5:29:39( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and said, let's do it. it wasn't enough. we're asking for a debate. if you have a better idea, put it on the floor and vote for it. but for the republicans to consistently start the filibusters and

Thomas Carper

5:29:39 to 5:29:50( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: object to bringing the measures forward to even debate them. now it is a take it or leave it. the senator from arizona has filed like the minority leader did yesterday this political get well card

Thomas Carper

5:29:50 to 5:30:08( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: that says, we'll make unanimous consents, so we're on the record rearelly wanting this. get on the record to vote for bringing it to the floor for a debate. tonight be afraid of a debate. don't

Thomas Carper

5:30:08 to 5:30:48( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: be afraid of an amendment. if you have an amendment, but it on the floor. 77 filibusters, one after another, and this one is to stop a rule from this administration, which would cut reimbursement for

Thomas Carper

5:31:03 to 5:31:16( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: doctors providing help through medicare. these doctors need that help. that's why we wanted to bring it to the floor. i beg the republican side, for goodness sake, let's act like a senate, let's debate,

Thomas Carper

5:31:16 to 5:31:45( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: let's deliberate, let's vote on amendmentses. let's earn our pay for one week. i yield. the presiding officer: the senator from alabama. mr. sessions: mr. president, to briefly comment on the oil situation

Thomas Carper

5:31:45 to 5:32:01( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: that senator craig and others have discussed. i would note that -- that -- mr. president, maybe i will save that time for later and not get into that subject today because i've got another one.

Thomas Carper

5:32:01 to 5:32:23( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: i see other senators on the floor and i won't get into the oil debate at this time. although i have some strong feelings about it. i want to discuss this afternoon the government accountability office's

Thomas Carper

5:32:23 to 5:32:39( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: recent decision to sustain the protest of the k.s.x. tanker award. i have followed that closely. the northrup gummen e. -- eads proposal would have constructed -- constructed a fabulous new facility in

Thomas Carper

5:32:39 to 5:32:56( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: my state and created thousands of jobs. i confess to be disappointed by the decision, but i think it is important to continue to follow this process and to recognize the appropriate roles of the different

Thomas Carper

5:32:56 to 5:33:20( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: government actors involved. it is, of course, not the g.a.o., government accountability office's job to pick aircraft for the air force. the g.a.o. used to be called the government accounting office. now

Thomas Carper

5:33:20 to 5:33:36( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: it is the government accountability office. it is fundamentally an accounting enforcement arm of our government. and as they said themselves when they made this decision in which they found flaws

Thomas Carper

5:33:36 to 5:34:02( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: in the process for making these -- the selection they said this -- quote -- "our decision should not -- should not be read to reflect a view as to the merits of the firm's respective aircraft. judgments

Thomas Carper

5:34:02 to 5:34:20( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: about which offerer will most successfully meet government needs is largely reserved for the procuring agencies subject only through such statutory and regulatory requirements as full and open competition

Thomas Carper

5:34:20 to 5:34:41( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: and fairness to potential offerers." so, in other words, it is the job of the war fighters, the people who will u this aircraft, the united states air force, and those who benefit from the united states

Thomas Carper

5:34:41 to 5:35:01( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: air force refueling capability, it'sor them to make the decision about which aircraft best meet their needs. the g.a.o. just has to make sure, and it's their responsibility, that all appropriate

Thomas Carper

5:35:01 to 5:35:20( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: processes and procedures are followed in doing this activity. and both the air force and d.o.d. have our -- i would make clear to my colleagues, have been unequivocal in their statement that they

Thomas Carper

5:35:20 to 5:35:43( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: believe that northrup-eads aircraft is a superior aircraft for their needs. as air force assistant secretary sue payton said on the announcement of the decision -- quote -- " minority ruth gummen provided the

Thomas Carper

5:35:43 to 5:36:07( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: best value to the government if you take a look at in accordance with the r.f.p., that was the proposal sent out, the five factors important to this decision, emission capability in proposal risk.

Thomas Carper

5:36:07 to 5:36:27( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: in the area of past performance, in cost price and in something we call an integrated fleet aerial refueling rating." they had a complex, but serious evaluation procedure that they utilized. just

Thomas Carper

5:36:27 to 5:36:47( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: last tuesday, pentagon spokesman geoffrey morell, said that the kc-45 -- quote -- "provided our war fighters with the most capable aircraft and taxpayers with the most effective solution to this

Thomas Carper

5:36:47 to 5:37:03( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: very real need of replacing the tanker fleet." the g.a.o. found procedural flaws, according to their analysis, to be sure, but they have not overturned this fundamental conclusion, the evaluation

Thomas Carper

5:37:03 to 5:37:19( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: made by the professional air force personnel. the people who actually have to fly tankers and uselize them -- utilize them and refuel at high a lot tiewdz and high -- altitudes and high speeds over

Thomas Carper

5:37:19 to 5:37:45( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: the atlantic and over the middle east and wherever in the world, still favor and chose the kc-45. still, it is important for the air force to consider the g.a.o.'s objections and to take them into

Thomas Carper

5:37:45 to 5:37:59( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: account. they have 60 days to do so. however, the g.a.o. also acknowledged it is the air force's decision about what final action they are to take. they have not, as some suggested, been ordered to start

Thomas Carper

5:37:59 to 5:38:14( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: over again. my colleague, senator cantwell, who i recognize represents the state of washington where this work would be done if boeing were the winner, had this to say -- quote -- "the air force will

Thomas Carper

5:38:14 to 5:38:34( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: have no choice but to rebid this project." close quote. well, that's not true. that's not an accurate statement. we need to be sure how we think about this as we go forward. even more inaccurately, some

Thomas Carper

5:38:34 to 5:38:57( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: of our colleagues have suggested that the g.a.o.'s decision means that the awards should be just given to boeing. senator brownback's press release, my good friend from kansas, who's also -- would love

Thomas Carper

5:38:57 to 5:39:19( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: to get some of the work in his home state, said that as a result of yesterday's announcement -- quote -- "this contract should be overturned and awarded to boeing." close quote. well, that's not

Thomas Carper

5:39:19 to 5:39:37( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: right. they didn't order that at all. no basis for that whatsoever. congressman norm dicks of washington, who until recently was telling people that he didn't really care what the g.a.o. had to say issued

Thomas Carper

5:39:37 to 5:39:55( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: a press release yesterday touting the g.a.o. decision an declaring a -- and declaring -- quote -- "i believe the air force should set aside the agreement it improperly reached with eads and northrup

Thomas Carper

5:39:55 to 5:40:11( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: gummen and we should build the best aircraft, the boeing kc-767 here at home." at home meaning his home state of washington. not my home state of alabama. so i would suggest, again, that's a misreading

Thomas Carper

5:40:11 to 5:40:26( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: completely of the g.a.o.'s decision and it demonstrates a misunderstanding of g.a.o.'s role. they analyzed the process, they found some errors, they said. they said nothing about giving the award to the other

Thomas Carper

5:40:26 to 5:40:41( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: competitor, boeing, and the military still adheres to its belief that they noted the superior aircraft. some of my colleagues also seem to misunderstand congress's role in this. or at least to interpret

Thomas Carper

5:40:41 to 5:40:59( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: their responsibilities to the american military differently than i do. senator murray announced yesterday -- quote -- "it is congress's job to determine whether major -- let's go back and repeat that.

Thomas Carper

5:40:59 to 5:41:17( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: she said -- quote -- "it is congress's job to determine whether major defense purchases meets the needs of our war fighter and deserve taxpayer funding." close quote. now, i'll tell you, lawyers, i'm

Thomas Carper

5:41:17 to 5:41:32( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: a lawyer. i know our presiding officer is. school teachers, accountants, veterinarians, we're not equipped or able nor do we have the responsibility and the intense interest to make these kind of decisions that the

Thomas Carper

5:41:32 to 5:41:48( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: united states air force does. they have a long history of aircraft purchasing and managing. they know something about what it's like to refuel in the air. and why an aircraft that can fly further and

Thomas Carper

5:41:48 to 5:42:03( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: carry far more fuel may be a superior aircraft to one that does not. so i'll tell you, this is not plate kal decision to be made by people who spend a few hours looking at it and think they are

Thomas Carper

5:42:03 to 5:42:30( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: now capable to reversing the decision made by the one agency in our government that will have to live with the result. so i guess i believe that it's the brave men and women of the air force 0 who

Thomas Carper

5:42:30 to 5:42:52( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: fly these planes an depend on them who should be making the decisions about their needs and what they think is best and we need to protect that. if they change their mind after this, well, so be it. but

Thomas Carper

5:42:52 to 5:43:15( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: i hope and believe strongly that this congress should encourage the air force to consider the objections raised by g.a.o. to fairly evaluate them and then to select, without political influence, the

Thomas Carper

5:43:15 to 5:43:34( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: best aircraft for the men and women in uniform, and that's the way we'll serve our country. and to politicize this process would be dead wrong and i object to it. and there's been too much of it.

Thomas Carper

5:43:34 to 5:43:51( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: let me just tell you the brief history about this. and see if i can't summarize it. because i think it's important. there was an attempt and, in fact, great progress was made when the appropriations

Thomas Carper

5:43:51 to 5:44:11( Edit History Discussion )

Thomas Carper: committee slipped in a appropriations bill that would lease 100 aircraft, $23 billion sole source from boeing. and people objected to that and objections were raised. senator mccain questioned that.

Christopher Dodd

5:44:11 to 5:44:26( Edit History Discussion )

Christopher Dodd: no hearings really in depth was studied about this. it was a sole-source contract for about $250 million per aircraft to just lease 100 of these aircraft. and so questions were raised. eventually one of

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