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Senate Proceeding 06-23-09 on Jun 23rd, 2009 :: 0:52:00 to 1:12:30
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Jim DeMint

0:51:56 to 0:52:17( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: and it is what the american people want and they deserve. mr. president, i yield back the floor. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from south carolina. a senator: i ask unanimous consent to th there objection? without objection, so ordered. mr. demint: thank you, mr. president. it seems that you're always stuck with listening to me.

Jim DeMint

0:52:00 to 1:12:30( Edit History Discussion )
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Jim DeMint

0:52:18 to 0:52:40( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: i apologize for that. i want to respond to my colleague's grand design of our new health care system in just a moment, but i'd like to back up a little bit and discuss health care and some other things in context. there's no question in mind that these are difficult times for america.

Jim DeMint

0:52:41 to 0:53:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: millions are unemployed and unemployment rate continues to climb. our economy has been in decline for a number of months, and our military is strained all around the world at a time when our enemies seem to be gaining strength and increasing in numbers. back here

Jim DeMint

0:53:02 to 0:53:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: and borrowing and debt are out of control in this massive government spending plan we call the stimulus has yet to show we see government in the many areas economy. and to the banks, the financial markets, the takeover of fannie

Jim DeMint

0:53:23 to 0:53:43( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: mae and freddie mac, takeover of large insurance companies, our auto industry. you know, people back home and all around the country are alarmed. and as i heard someone say last week, they tried to explain to me they're alarmed, and they threw up their hds and they just said "i'm outraged out," and couldn't speak any more.

Jim DeMint

0:53:44 to 0:54:05( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: my question for my colleagues today: is this a good time to create another government the answer on the other side is yesterday they all voted, i believe, to get the federal government in the tourism busine

Jim DeMint

0:54:06 to 0:54:26( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: and pass the federal government to promote tourism in america all over the i think it's in today's terms, a small amount of money. but the tourism industry, while is certainly not in collapse and need of a government bailout.

Jim DeMint

0:54:27 to 0:54:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: the tourism industry spent billions of dollars on advertising last years. and it's not as if the rest of the world does not know we're here. the problem with tourism in america can be laid at the feet at an inept government. if you ask people abroad why they're not coming here in such numbers as they have in

Jim DeMint

0:54:48 to 0:55:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: past, we find show that we are the most unwelcoming at our office in the lines to get through to america. if you want to have a business convention or trade show in america, it's very likely that you cannot get the visas for your customers to come here, so many of these conventions and

Jim DeMint

0:55:09 to 0:55:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: trade shows have had t overseas. the problem with here is what the government is not doing well. we don't need to get the government in the tourism bu i have plants back home, such as bmw, who would like to bring people from their headquarters in germany over here to train

Jim DeMint

0:55:30 to 0:55:50( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: the american workforce, but found it's easier just to send our people over there because it's so hard to get their to come here. they could come here and stay in our hotels and eat at our restaurants and improve our economy. but instead an inept government causes

Jim DeMint

0:55:51 to 0:56:11( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: stay in their hotels, eat in their restaurants and rent their cars. it's just illogical for us to create a federal a la fannie mae, a new government-sponsored entity that is going to help promote tourism. it is this same kind of logic we're now using for health care.

Jim DeMint

0:56:12 to 0:56:33( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: we're saying weave a crisis in health care, so, therefore, the government needs to get more involved and to take over various aspects of the health care industry, such as was just described by my colleague from new york. but if we look at this situation a little more clearly, we'll see

Jim DeMint

0:56:34 to 0:56:56( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: causing most of our problems in not allowing free-market health care system to work. let's just look at this a little bit closer, because there's whole lot of misinformation that was just shared on the floor he let's look at health care coverage in america. you've got about 60% now that

Jim DeMint

0:56:57 to 0:57:18( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: are in employer-sponsored plans and almost another purchased their own insurance on the individual market. so we have about 70% of people with private insurance. you've medicare-medicaid and anoer 4%

Jim DeMint

0:57:19 to 0:57:40( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: or so that are in military?? plans. so you've got between 25% and 30% of americans who are now in a and my colleague from new york was just bragging about how well the government health plans work of medicare. certainly if you have medicare and you can get a doctor to see you, it works just fine.

Jim DeMint

0:57:41 to 0:58:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: but the problem is, is every dollar medicare since been spent. the 2.5% that comes out of every paycheck has not been saved by our senior citizens to pay their health care. it's been spent, and there is absolutely no money in this system to take care of baby boomers.

Jim DeMint

0:58:02 to 0:58:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: this works like a government plan that my bragging about. it has trillions of dollars of unfunded debt that will fall on the heads of our children and grandchildren. trillions of dollars that we have no idea how we're going to pay for.

Jim DeMint

0:58:23 to 0:58:43( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: in debt at the state and the federal level. even worse is this problem, and let's keep looking at government versus private plans. i think mos people in america woblt best situation in health care is to have a health care -- health insurance policy so you can pick your own doctor and decide with your doctor what

Jim DeMint

0:58:44 to 0:59:04( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: kind of health care you're going to get. no plan is perfect. there are always problems in health care. it's very but you have here about 70% people who are in that situation, but every year their insurance costs more money. my colleague was saying that that is caused by private insurance, but let's find out

Jim DeMint

0:59:05 to 0:59:25( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: the truth here. every year these government plans pay physicians hospitals less. they pay a physician less their cost to see a patient. and i hav in south carolina areas. they have to close their practice to new medicare and

Jim DeMint

0:59:26 to 0:59:47( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: medicaid patients because once over 60% of their patients are medicaid or medicare they can longer make a living. you know how these costs are picked up? the hospitals take medicare and medicaid have to charge private insurers more money every year because every year the government pays doctors less.

Jim DeMint

0:59:48 to 1:00:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: that's why fewer and fewer of our best and brightest students are going to medical school and that we're position shortage in this country not because of private health insurance, but because of the government plans. we've got about 16% who have no coverage in our country today. those are the ones that we say we're concerned with right now.

Jim DeMint

1:00:09 to 1:00:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: th hospitals to provide them service whether they have any insurance or money anyway. and where do these they're transferred to those who have private insurance. so every year the inept government is transferring huge amounts employers and those individuals

Jim DeMint

1:00:32 to 1:00:53( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: who are buying private health insurance and now my colleagues are trying to s this is what's failing us. we need to expand this part of the health care market, the part that's not paying doctors and hospitals to see patients, the part that's trillions of dollars in debt and the part that's already beginning to ratio health care for those who are under those plans.

Jim DeMint

1:00:54 to 1:01:15( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: if you want to know how the public option's going to work, i'd just encourage you to drop by a social securit take a number an sit town and wait for them to get to you or maybe go to a veterans hospital or another government service. did we really want the government involved with health care? health care's the most personal and private service that we have as ame

Jim DeMint

1:01:16 to 1:01:37( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: do we want to turn health care over to the most impersonal, most wasteful and in most corrupt aspect of our society? what we do need to do is look at how we plans in the hands of those who have no insurance. that is something that we can do

Jim DeMint

1:01:38 to 1:01:58( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: and we can do it for a lot less than the current administration is talking about. but before we talk about how we're going to get these inred, are. because this is misrepresented to exaggerate the problem to create a crisis so that we can justify another government takeover over another

Jim DeMint

1:01:59 to 1:02:20( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: area of our economy. we say we hav uninsured in america. you've got actually have medicaid today but they're under counted in the census.

Jim DeMint

1:02:21 to 1:02:41( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: we hav another 4.3 million who are eligible for medicaid or schip or program, but they haven'tigned up for it. we need to make more of an effort to get peo for the programs they're eligible for. you've got about 9.3 who are noncitizens. many of those are illegal in the country and the taxpayer should

Jim DeMint

1:02:42 to 1:03:02( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: not be paying for their health care. we've got about 10% who have incomes of 300% or more over poverty and they're just not buying health care. an i've had some of those work for me when i was in business. i would offer to oir insurance. i'd pay $500 a month and they

Jim DeMint

1:03:03 to 1:03:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: would pay $50 and some people turn it down because they don't want to pay $50. insurance. we have some people between 18 and 34 years old who don't have insurance and 10.6 million who are and if we look at this, at least half of these should not be subsidized by any type of government plan that are not

Jim DeMint

1:03:25 to 1:03:45( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: already eligible for a plan or not citizens of our country. we could look at 20 million to 25 million. now, i want to make clear if there is one person in america who doesn't have access to good health care, that is a crisis to them. and we need to do everything we can to make sure that we are fair and affordable health care policies a available to every

Jim DeMint

1:03:46 to 1:04:06( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: american. that's my goal. that's the goal of the republican party. and this week, this afternoon, as a matter of fact, i'm going to introduce a plan that will solve the problem at a fraction of the cost of what the democrats and president obama are proposing. in various ways their plan is to

Jim DeMint

1:04:07 to 1:04:27( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: expand the government option whether it's a government health plan or government mandated plan on the private insurance market. one way or another, they want to expand government rather than expand private insurance. and i know this for a fact. this is my fifth year in the i've introduced a lot of re

Jim DeMint

1:04:28 to 1:04:49( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: these people get insurance and every time my democrat colleagues have voted it down. we've had proposals for association health plans that would allow small businesses to come together and at a lower price to offer their employees. they i had a proposal that i introduced called health care choice that would do just what

Jim DeMint

1:04:50 to 1:05:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: my colleague from new york was talking about is break single-state health care plans. my plan would allow an american state in the country. wherever a plan is registered, certified by that state, someone in south carolina could buy it from arizona or colorado, mr.

Jim DeMint

1:05:11 to 1:05:32( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: president, and that's how most industries work in america. if i want to go across the line and buy a car in north carolina, i'm not prohibited to do that. but i can't do it if it's a health insurance plan. so we allow quasi-monopolies to develop in every state. i would develop a plan that would allow americans to buy -- the freedom to buy health

Jim DeMint

1:05:33 to 1:05:53( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: in country and to a person the democrats voted it down. now, i introduced a plan that would allow people to use what they have in a health savings account to pay for a insurance premium. common sense, right? they voted it down. the fact is this: the people who want to expand the government option do not want these peopl to have private insurance

Jim DeMint

1:05:54 to 1:06:14( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: because they believe in government and they do not believe that the private market can keep itself accountable. but the problems we have with the private market now can be attributed to a large degree to the government not paying its share of the cost, to the government having policies that keep quasi-monopolies invery state.

Jim DeMint

1:06:15 to 1:06:36( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: i had a proposal that would allow individuals to deduct the just like we allow employers. the democrats to a person voted it down. folks, you don't have to look far to understand what's going on here. the people who like taking over

Jim DeMint

1:06:37 to 1:06:57( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: freddie mac want these government programs to be expanded all the way around this circle. this is something we've got to stop. and we can do it very simply if we use fairness and freedom here. so my plea to all americans, and particularly my colleagues, before we give up on freedom the health care area, let's let

Jim DeMint

1:06:58 to 1:07:19( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: it work and that's what my proposal is. this afternoon i'm going to introduce a plan that tells every american if you like the plan you have, whether it be medicare or medicaid or an employer plan or a military plan, you keep it. we're not going to mess with it. but if you have no coverage at all, or if you're buying your

Jim DeMint

1:07:20 to 1:07:40( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: policy on your own on the open market, we're going to for the first time treat you fairly and give you the same tax break that we give people in the employer-sponsored plan. this plan does family, we're going to give you a certificate for $5,000 a year to buy health insurance. if you're an individual, we'll give you $2,000 a year to buy health insurance.

Jim DeMint

1:07:41 to 1:08:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: now some will scream and say, you can't get a good policy for that, and you can because i bought it for my adult children who aged out of my plan. and my plan also includes the option for an individual to buy health insurance in any state so we'll increase competion and lor the price. the plan also allows an employer

Jim DeMint

1:08:02 to 1:08:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: to put money in the health savings account for you that you can use to pay for your health care or to pay for your -- the premium to support you to buy additional coverage with your health insurance. we have a provision that deals with lawsuit abuse and we have a provision that funds high-risk

Jim DeMint

1:08:23 to 1:08:43( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: pools for states so who have high risk conditions, uninsurable conditions, preexisting conditions can buy insurance that they can afford at state level. so the estimates are by the heritage foundation that five years more than 20 million of these uninsured, most of them, will have private

Jim DeMint

1:08:44 to 1:09:05( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: insurance plans. because they can't use their health care certificate unless they use it to buy health insurance. now, just ask my colleagues this: if we had the option to get everyone in an individual or employer plan or expand these government plans, which aren't paying their way, which are transferring costs to other

Jim DeMint

1:09:06 to 1:09:26( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: people, which are hopelessly in debt, which way but we can fund my plan without one additional dol taxpayer money because the estimates are over the next 10 years that getting these people insured with private policies, giving them a $5,000 a year health care certificate will

Jim DeMint

1:09:27 to 1:09:48( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: cost about $700 billion. if that number sounds familiar, that's about how much money we've got outstanding with the bailout money we call tarp here in this congress. instead of them bringing this money back and spending it on sothing else, myroposal pays for my plan by recapturing this tarp money.

Jim DeMint

1:09:49 to 1:10:10( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: so as this bailout money comes back over the next five years, it can pay to give every american access to a plan that they can afford and own and keep. it's basically no additional cost to the taxpayer at this point over what we're already committed for for the bailout. the choice really belongs to americans.

Jim DeMint

1:10:11 to 1:10:32( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: are we going to buy this idea that a government option is ally going to give choice, more quality, more personal attention, it will attract more physicians into the profession? any thinking american knows that isn't going to happen. the ideal plans are those that

Jim DeMint

1:10:33 to 1:10:55( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: when an individual has a plan that they reasoned can keep, they -- they own and can keep, they pick their own doctor and the doctor and patient decide what health care they're going to get. this is within our reach. we don't need massive government takeover of health care in order to make health care accessible to every american. let's not buy this idea that we're in such a crisis that we

Jim DeMint

1:10:56 to 1:11:16( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: have to rush over the next another government program, another government takeover when we see what happens to government-run health plans right in front of our eyes. it won't work. we can't afford it. they're going to end up rationing care. they're going to tak plans irrespective of what they say.

Jim DeMint

1:11:17 to 1:11:37( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: if you have a low-cost government option that doesn't pay interests enough to see you, you're going to see employers dropping their health plans and you will end up in the lap of the government whether you like it or not. let's not give up on freedom. let's look at the facts. have we seen any government program duringour lifetime or mine that has actually donehat it said it was going to do at

Jim DeMint

1:11:38 to 1:11:58( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: the cost they said it would b done at? and you know that's not social security, so important to seniors, a promise we must keep, hopelessly in debt because this govern that americans have put in it and there's not a dime in the social security account to pay future benefits.

Jim DeMint

1:11:59 to 1:12:21( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: the same with medicare, trillions of dollars. this is a commonsense solution that every american can see. if we don't listen to the misrepresentation that's we're starting to hear in this body. -- misrepresentations that we're starting to hear in this body. evy american with a policy they can own and keep is

Jim DeMint

1:12:22 to 1:12:31( Edit History Discussion )

Jim DeMint: available to us within our reach without any government takeover of health care. we just have to believe that what a health care work and that is

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