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Senate Proceeding on Jun 26th, 2008 :: 1:15:12 to 1:29:17
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Lindsey Graham

1:15:12 to 1:15:21( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the floor, so i will suggest the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: | quorum call: ~ quorum call: a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer:

Lindsey Graham

1:15:12 to 1:29:17( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Lindsey Graham

Lindsey Graham

1:15:21 to 1:15:28( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the senator from south carolina. a senator: thank you. are we in a quorum call? the presiding officer: the senatorto is correct. mr. graham: i ask unanimous consent that the quorum call be terminated.

Lindsey Graham

1:15:28 to 1:15:40( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the presiding officer: without objection. mr. graham: i'd like to speak for 15 minutes on the fisa legislation. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. graham: thank you. thank you, mr. president.

Lindsey Graham

1:15:40 to 1:15:54( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the senate is taking up a matter i think is very important to the american people, to our national security, and that is to pass the compromise reached by the house and the administration regarding

Lindsey Graham

1:15:54 to 1:16:07( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the fisa program. i'd like to briefly, if i could, lay out my view of how the law works in this area. the initial approach by the bush administration that there was no requirement to comply with the

Lindsey Graham

1:16:07 to 1:16:20( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: fisa statute foreign intelligence surveillance act because of inherent authority of the executive at the time of war, i did not agree with, quite frankly. the idea that an american would be surveiled by an

Lindsey Graham

1:16:20 to 1:16:31( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: agency of our government suspecting that that american citizen was being -- was involved with the enemy, a fifth column movement, for lack of a better term, and no court review was unacceptable to me.

Lindsey Graham

1:16:31 to 1:16:43( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: if an american citizen is suspected of collaborating with the enemy, i think there is a requirement for the government to go have their homework checked, to have a judge to authorize further surveillance

Lindsey Graham

1:16:43 to 1:16:58( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: in a kind of balanced approach. once there is a reasonable belief that an american citizen may be involved with enemy forces, that becomes a crime of treason potentially. i do think it is appropriate

Lindsey Graham

1:16:58 to 1:17:15( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: for congress to pass a statute that would say that when an american citizen is suspected of being involved with an enemy force taking up arms against the united states, uniformed or not, that the fisa

Lindsey Graham

1:17:15 to 1:17:28( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: statute applies and that the inherent authority of the executive to conduct surveillance in a time of war is limited or can be limited by the other branches of government. now, having said that, this

Lindsey Graham

1:17:28 to 1:17:43( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: idea that at a time of war that you need a warrant to surveil the enemy when a non -- when no american citizen is involved is crazy. we've never in any other war went to a judge and said we're listening

Lindsey Graham

1:17:43 to 1:17:56( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: to enemy forces to suspected members of al qaeda, non-american citizens. we need a warrant. well, you don't need that. that's inherent in the ability to conduct military operations is to monitor the enemy.

Lindsey Graham

1:17:56 to 1:18:07( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: so those who want to basically criminalize the war, i disagree in equal measure. we are at war, and there is an effort out there by our intelligence agencies to monitor phone calls and other electronic

Lindsey Graham

1:18:07 to 1:18:19( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: communications of a very vicious enemy intent on attacking us again, and that program has been shut down because of this dispute. well, what we -- we finally found a compromise. we found a compromise

Lindsey Graham

1:18:19 to 1:18:34( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: that would allow the program to move forward, protecting american citizens who may be suspected of being involved with enemy forces, and also allowing the commander in chief and our military and intelligence

Lindsey Graham

1:18:34 to 1:18:46( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: community to aggressively monitor networks out there that wish us harm. and in this global world in which we live in, the technology that's available to the enemy is different than it was in 1978.

Lindsey Graham

1:18:46 to 1:19:01( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: so we modernized fisa. we made it possible for our intelligence communities to be able to keep up with the different technologies that enemy forces may be using to communicate. and i can assure

Lindsey Graham

1:19:01 to 1:19:12( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the american people that this program has been of enormous benefit, the terrorist surveillance program has really allowed us to stay ahead of enemy activity. with terrorism, you do not deter them by

Lindsey Graham

1:19:12 to 1:19:23( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: threatening them with death. death is something they welcome. other enemies in the past have been deterred by attacking america because they know an overwhelming response will be coming their wait a minute

Lindsey Graham

1:19:23 to 1:19:35( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: in the cold war, it was called mutually assured destruction. in this war with terrorism, with terrorist organizations who will gladly forfeit the lives of the mentally handicapped young people, you

Lindsey Graham

1:19:35 to 1:19:49( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: have to hit them before they hit you, and you have to know where they're at, what they're up to, and you try to isolate them the best you can. finding out what they're up to and following their

Lindsey Graham

1:19:49 to 1:20:02( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: movements is essential because you have to preempt them because they're able to attack. now, we've got a compromise that has come from the house to the senate that i can live with. and the sticking

Lindsey Graham

1:20:02 to 1:20:15( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: point was the role that our telecommunication companies played in the terrorist surveillance program. it's my understanding that the attorney general, the chief law enforcement officer of the land

Lindsey Graham

1:20:15 to 1:20:29( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: in the department of justice gave a letter to the telecom companies involved saying that, your cooperation with our intelligence communities and military surveillance programs is legal and appropriate, and

Lindsey Graham

1:20:29 to 1:20:43( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: we need your help because a phone call made in afghanistan, because of the global economy in which we live in, may be routed through an american system here. and the two people talking are noncitizens,

Lindsey Graham

1:20:43 to 1:20:57( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: but there may be a telecommunication involvement in terms of routing of the phone call. and we needed assistance from the telecom companies to be able to track the technology that exists today that's being

Lindsey Graham

1:20:57 to 1:21:13( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: used by the enemies of the country. and the idea that somebody would want to sue them because they broke the law after they have been told by the department of justice, the attorney general, your help

Lindsey Graham

1:21:13 to 1:21:26( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: is needed and it's lawful for you to help, really misses the point, i think. i mean, what are we trying to do here as a country? are we trying to avoid the fact that we're at war by talking about lawsuits

Lindsey Graham

1:21:26 to 1:21:37( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: that undermine the ability of the country to protect itself? you know, i'm very much for civil liberties. i don't want any american, as i said before, to be followed by an agency of our government

Lindsey Graham

1:21:37 to 1:21:50( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: suspecting they're cooperation with al qaeda or some other terrorist group not to have the government's work looked at by a judge. i would not want that to happen to anybody. if you think i or anybody

Lindsey Graham

1:21:50 to 1:22:04( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: else who is an american citizen is helping the enemy, then you ought to be able to go to the judge and get a warrant. i think that's appropriate. but this idea of having the telecommunication, american

Lindsey Graham

1:22:04 to 1:22:19( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: telecommunication companies cooperating with the government in a fashion -- they're calling me right now. in a fashion to help our forces, our intelligence communities stay ahead of an enemy and

Lindsey Graham

1:22:19 to 1:22:41( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: subject them to retroactive -- subject them to a civil lawsuit's ridiculous. i mean, that's not the appropriate remedy, because if we allow these companies who have been asked by their government,

Lindsey Graham

1:22:41 to 1:22:53( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the chief law enforcement officer of the land, to participate in a program -- sorry about that. if we ask them to wait and sue them, who's going to help us in the future? i mean, thiss is pretty basic

Lindsey Graham

1:22:53 to 1:23:05( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: stuff for me; that if we do not protect companies from lawsuits that a existing out there, willing to help the government, if we don't give them some protection, nobody in the future is going to

Lindsey Graham

1:23:05 to 1:23:20( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: come and help us. and we need all the help we can. we need help from banks. we need help from telecommunication companies. we need help from all kinds of different corners of the private sector to

Lindsey Graham

1:23:20 to 1:23:36( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: beat this enemy. we're allll in it together, you know. the terrorists use banks to funnel money. well, the banks need to help us. if we suspect an account exists somewhere that's being used by a terrorist

Lindsey Graham

1:23:36 to 1:23:48( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: organization, we should be able to track that down. we're all in this together. the private sector plays a role in the war on terrorism. every citizen can play a role in the war on terrorism by being diligent.

Lindsey Graham

1:23:48 to 1:24:00( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: so, we finally reached a deal that would allow the program to be reauthorized, protecting civil liberties and telling the telecommunication companies who helped us, "you're not going to get sued." and to

Lindsey Graham

1:24:00 to 1:24:13( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: my dear friend, senator specter, his solution is, well, let the lawsuits come forward, but shield the companies by having the government take legal responsibility and be subject to being sued. that's not

Lindsey Graham

1:24:13 to 1:24:24( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the right answer either. our government wasn't doing a bad thing. our government was doing a good thing. our government was trying to find out what enemies of this nation were up to before it was

Lindsey Graham

1:24:24 to 1:24:36( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: too late. now, we've had a lot of warnings in the past that were ignored. how many times do we have to deal with this terrorist problem through the law enforcement model to only wake up and find out that

Lindsey Graham

1:24:36 to 1:24:49( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: we were wrong? law enforcement -- the law enforcement model will not work here. and the law enforcement model, you punish people after they commit the crime. we're at war. our goal is to keep them

Lindsey Graham

1:24:49 to 1:25:03( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: from attacking us. the military model is the one that we should pursue. and every other war, the private sector has helped the government defeat the enemies of this country. now, when senator obama says

1:25:03 to 1:25:20( Edit History Discussion )

that he would like this provision taken out of the bill, the protection to telecommunication companies from lawsuits, that he would like that taken out of the bill, what he's telling the senate, the house,

Lindsey Graham

1:25:20 to 1:25:32( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: and the country is that this deal would fall apart. if you took this provision out that he is against, ther would be no deal. people like me would not allow this process to go forward, and we had to

Lindsey Graham

1:25:32 to 1:25:45( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: give some. there was a give on part of the administrati on, and people like myself. there's some programs that i think are inherent to fighting the war that now have to be reviewed by the court. but

Lindsey Graham

1:25:45 to 1:26:03( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: that was a compromise. for senator obama to come and say that he would take this provision out is saying that he does not believe in a bipartisan deal on the subject matter in question. now, the

Lindsey Graham

1:26:03 to 1:26:20( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: left has gone nuts over this, the hard left. they think this is just totally unacceptable. so, apparently, he is going to tell them i don't support this. why, i'm sure that's what they want to hear.

Lindsey Graham

1:26:20 to 1:26:36( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: but, to my colleagues, deals require giving and taking. it requires sometimes telling your friends what they don't want to hear. this is an example, in my opinion, of trying to tell your friends what

Lindsey Graham

1:26:36 to 1:26:53( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: they want to hear and position yourself in a way to look good with the public in general. and this is not leadership. leadership requires the common good to trump special interests. it requires political

Lindsey Graham

1:26:53 to 1:27:07( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: leaders to turn to their allies at times and say, "no, your suggestion here cannot win the day, because if i give you what you're insisting on having, there will be no movement forward." and senator obama

Lindsey Graham

1:27:07 to 1:27:18( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: is willing to give the left what they want, and the consequence would be that the deal would fall apart. because there's many people like me who believe that if you allow these companies to be sued

Lindsey Graham

1:27:18 to 1:27:36( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: for helping their country, then nobody will come forward in the future to help their country from the private secr. and in this war, we're going to need support from the private sector not only

Lindsey Graham

1:27:36 to 1:27:48( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: in telecommunications but in banking and other areas. so i hope that the amendment to strike the retroactive immunity for telecommunication companies will be defeated, because if it's passed the deal fails.

Lindsey Graham

1:27:48 to 1:28:00( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the movement forward stops and america is harmed. and i am here to support the deal and understand that i didn't get all i wanted, but america will be safer if we can get this program reauthorized.

Lindsey Graham

1:28:00 to 1:28:16( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: our civil liberties will be better protected, and the ability to understand what our enemies are up to will be greatly enhanced. and every day that we move forward as a nation with this program

Lindsey Graham

1:28:16 to 1:28:29( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: being compromised is a day that the enemy has an advantage over us. we know what happens if this enemy is not dealt with firmly and quickly. they're lethal, they're committed, and they will do

Lindsey Graham

1:28:29 to 1:28:44( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: anything to harm our way of life. and we have an opportunity here to come together as republicans and democrats and move forward on the surveillance program that is vital to our national security.

Lindsey Graham

1:28:44 to 1:28:55( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: and those who want to undo this deal because of special interest pressure are not exercising the leadership that the american people need at time of war. with that, i will ask that the -- that we go

Lindsey Graham

1:28:55 to 1:29:03( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: into a quorum call. mrs. murray: mr. president, if the senator would hold on that? mr. graham: absolutely. the presiding officer: the senator from washington state is recognized. mrs. murray: mr. president,

Lindsey Graham

1:29:03 to 1:29:17( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: i ask unanimous consent to speak as if in morning business for ten minutes and that the time be counted against the bill. the presiding officer: is there objection? so ordered. mrs. murray: mr. predent,

Patty Murray

1:29:17 to 1:29:32( Edit History Discussion )

Patty Murray: four months ago, when the air force announced that airbus -- not boeing -- would supply the next generation of aerial refueling tankers, air force acquisition officials declared that the contest had been

Patty Murray

1:29:17 to 1:37:35( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Patty Murray

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