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Senate Proceeding on Jul 15th, 2009 :: 9:32:20 to 9:49:15
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Saxby Chambliss

9:32:17 to 9:32:38( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: would occur at 1:00 a.m. friday morning. if there is no further business to come before the senate, i ask, mr. president, that following the remarks of senator chambliss, grassley, and adjourn under the previous order. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. brown: thank you, mr. president. thank you, senator mr. chamblnt the presiding officer: the

Saxby Chambliss

9:32:20 to 9:49:15( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Saxby Chambliss

Saxby Chambliss

9:32:39 to 9:33:00( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: senator from georgia. mr. channel lis: mr. presint, i understand we're -- mr. chambliss: mr. president, i understand we're in morning business. i'm going to talk on two different subjects. i'll mak relative to the f-22, which i would ask unanimous consent those commentse inserted in the record regarding -- at the appropriate spot relevant to the debate on the f-22. and my other comments relative to a nominee go at the

Saxby Chambliss

9:33:01 to 9:33:22( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: appropriate place in the record. the presiding officer: without ob mr. chambliss: have listened to the debate here all day with regard to the national defense authorization bill the frustrating aspects of

Saxby Chambliss

9:33:23 to 9:33:43( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: serving in this great body. to sit here and debate an issue like we have debated over the last couple of days and think that you're going to come to the floor of the senate today and to cast a vote on a very important measure that's been characterized by senator mccain earlier as one of the most important pieces of

Saxby Chambliss

9:33:44 to 9:34:06( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: legislation or amendments that we will have and agree with him that that is the kiss an case and think we're going to vote on it and all of a sudden we're thrown into an entirely different atmosphere with rerd to what's taking place on the floor. all of a sudden we're not talking about defense, talking about our troops, we're not talking about the national security of the united states,

Saxby Chambliss

9:34:07 to 9:34:28( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: we're talking about he crimes. we're in some very difficult times with respect to the national security of our country today, and while senator mccain and i disagree on the issue of the amendment, he and i agree dear friend and why we agree on most things -- about the fact that we ought to be here

Saxby Chambliss

9:34:29 to 9:34:49( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: debating defense issues and voting on defense issues. and it truly is frustrating. and i know our soldiers in the field can't understand what in the world is going on on the floor of the senate now when they thought we were going to be debating and voting on amendments that pertain to them, to issues like their pay raise,

Saxby Chambliss

9:34:50 to 9:35:10( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: issues l life, and issues like weapons systems and all of a sudden we're thrown into doing something else. so i just want to associate myself with the remarks. of -- of my friend, senator mccain, and why we're here. and with regard to what senator levin said, frankly, senator dodd on the other side of the

Saxby Chambliss

9:35:11 to 9:35:35( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: aisle who's been working very closely with me on the f-22 amendment, he and i had a meeting with senator levin and senator mccain on monday and informally, or actually formally agreed between the four of us, which is an informal agreement, that we would have a vote on the levin-mccain amendment on wednesday morning.

Saxby Chambliss

9:35:36 to 9:35:56( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: we thought that -- that that was kind of a done deal. and now all of a sudden we've debated and we talked about this, we debated it again, we talked about the amendment and now we're thrown into just an entirely different scenario on the floor. and we've been prepared to vote. i would happy to we still have the opportunity -- and i would hope that we still

Saxby Chambliss

9:35:57 to 9:36:17( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: have the opportunity to vote in the short-term on the issue of the f-22. and i want to just very briefly state, mr. president, a couple of things with regard to -- to that issue. yesterday and i'm not going to go back into all the detail with the reference to the why-fors of the f-22 and its value to the

Saxby Chambliss

9:36:18 to 9:36:41( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: national security of the united states, but there have been some comments made on the floor that i think it's important that i address. one of those comments was by senator levin who said that i made a statement that there had never been a study by the air force which required -- which

Saxby Chambliss

9:36:42 to 9:37:04( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: validated the requirement of 187 aircraft for the f-22. what i said was there have been dozens of studies out there over the years on the f-22 and there has only been one study, was an internal study at the the input of the air force, that

Saxby Chambliss

9:37:05 to 9:37:25( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: said that 187 is the number. and i want to make sure that everybody in this body understands that every single other state, done internally as well as outside the pentagon, outside the air force, outside the office of the secretar secretary of defense or inside has concluded that the requirements for the

Saxby Chambliss

9:37:26 to 9:37:47( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: number of -- of f-22's that we need far exceeds the number of 187, the minimum number that's ever been referred to is 243, which is some 56 airplanes more than the 187 that we're talking

Saxby Chambliss

9:37:48 to 9:38:08( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: about now. last week, in a hearing before the senate armed services committee, we had general james cartwright, who is the joint chief of staff and at that hearing, i asked general cartwright -- and i want to make sure i get my language just right -- i asked him if

Saxby Chambliss

9:38:09 to 9:38:30( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: there was a -- if there was any study or any analysis done at the pentagon that validated the number 187? and what general cartwright told me was, he said there is a study on the joint staff that we just completed and partnered with the air force which validates the number of 187.

Saxby Chambliss

9:38:31 to 9:38:51( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: well, yesterday, or on monday afternoon, a reporter asked a pentagon official and theop spokesman from the pent gone, jeff morrell, made the statement in response to a reporter's inquiry about that study as follows. he said: "well, it's not so much

Saxby Chambliss

9:38:52 to 9:39:13( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: a study as a work product. i think what general cartwright was referring to is two different work products, one by the program analysis and evaluation shop and one by the air force, not so much a study. so what's happened is there have been discussions with the pentagon to attempt to validate

Saxby Chambliss

9:39:14 to 9:39:34( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: the number of 187. it's pretty obvious that what i said on the floor of the senate remains true and that is that of all the dozens of studies that have been done on the f-22 requirement, that's ever been validated is 243. the number goes up from there

Saxby Chambliss

9:39:35 to 9:39:55( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: all the way to 781, which i think was our original number. the number of 381 is a number that's been used in most of the recent studies as the number that we need. also with -- with respect to

Saxby Chambliss

9:39:56 to 9:40:16( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: other statements regarding the secretary of defense, the chairman of the joint chiefs and others w is the number, that's the leadership at the pentagon. the leadership at the pentagon has the responsibility for sending a budget to the senate and to the house. it's our obligation as members

Saxby Chambliss

9:40:17 to 9:40:39( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: of the senate and the house to review that budget. sometimes to agree with it, sometimes to disagree with it, and we often disagree with it. and in this case, a number of us disagree with the number of 187 as being the top line for the f-22.

Saxby Chambliss

9:40:40 to 9:41:00( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: the -- and that's not unusual. but with leadership at the pentagon has said, let me go back to a letter that i talked about yesterday and it's a letter that has been received from rebecca grant, the director of the mitchell institute for airpower studies. what she says in her letter to me is that in the letter of july

Saxby Chambliss

9:41:01 to 9:41:22( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: 13 from admiral mullen and secretary gates, the characterization of the f-35 as a half generation newer aircraft than the f-22 and more capable in a number of areas, such as electronic warfare and combating enemy air defenses, is incorrect and misleading. air force secretary doneley and

Saxby Chambliss

9:41:23 to 9:41:43( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: general schwartz has repeatedly stated the f-22 is unquestionably the most capable fighter in our military inventory. the f-22 was designed with twice the fighting speed and altitude of the f-35 to preserve u.s. advantages in the air, even if adversaries can test our electronic countermeasures or reach parity with us. she also united states sen

Saxby Chambliss

9:41:44 to 9:42:06( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: that letter, "if electronic jamming fails, the speed, altitude and maneuverability advantages of the f-22 remain. the after f-22's secured the airspace and does not have the in advantages to survive every time against pe counterelectronic measures.

Saxby Chambliss

9:42:07 to 9:42:29( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: only five f-35's are flying today only five. the f-35s has completed less than half its testing. developmental tests will not be complete until 2013. it is impossible to assess the full capabilities of the f-35 until ope complete. the secretary of defense and

Saxby Chambliss

9:42:30 to 9:42:54( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: others in the administration are putting all of their tactical air eggs in one basket. mr. president, that's a very dangerous road down which we -- we should not travel with respect to the national security of the united states, th and security of our men and women. now, mr. president, i want

Saxby Chambliss

9:42:55 to 9:43:15( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: move i want to speak on the nomination of cass sunstein to be the administrator of the office of information and regulatory affairs within the office of management and budget. i placed a hold on the consideration of profess sunste his hearing in the senate committee on homeland security

Saxby Chambliss

9:43:16 to 9:43:37( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: and goverent affairs. i chose to do this because lectured and made recommendations on animal rights issues that are very troubling to me and to folks who their living in agriculture and those who enjoy our nation's great hunting and fishing heritage. and let me just say,

Saxby Chambliss

9:43:38 to 9:44:00( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: mr. president, it is extremely unusual for this member of the senate to place a hold on anybody. it's just not something that i normally do. professor sunstein has theorized that animals -- he's theorized in writing as well as in speeches that animals should be permitted to bring suit against

Saxby Chambliss

9:44:01 to 9:44:22( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: their owners and others with human beings being their representatives. now, let me say that again. professor sunstein has theorized in writing and in speeches that animals bring lawsuits owners and others with human beings as their representatives.

Saxby Chambliss

9:44:23 to 9:44:43( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: now, that is a very radical and strange position, and it not only got my attention but it got the attention of any number of other folks around the country both within and without the agriculture sector of our country. the devastating effect that this would have on animal agriculture is incalculable. mistreated livestock do not perform well.

Saxby Chambliss

9:44:44 to 9:45:04( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: american farmers and ranchers work every day to make sure their stock is cared for in a humane manner, and yet they would still face a tremendous threat from under this misguided they're rivmentz even though claims would be baseless, they would still bear the financial costs of reckless litigation. that's a cost that

Saxby Chambliss

9:45:05 to 9:45:26( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: most family farming and ranching operations out of business. professor sunstein also made off-hand remarks during lectures that perhaps hunting ought to be banned. while he offered assurances during his nomination hearing that his personal view supported hunting, i'm not a member of that committee and, thus, was

Saxby Chambliss

9:45:27 to 9:45:48( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: not able to question professor sunstein personally during his confirmation hearing. i greatly enjoyed the time i spend hunting with and family, and i was also very disturbed by this statement. the administrator of o.m.b.'s office of information and regulatory affairs must have a firm foundation and common sense, and we owe it to the

Saxby Chambliss

9:45:49 to 9:46:09( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: american public to ensure that regulators are properly vetted by the united states senate. that is why i held professor sunstein's nomination in order to provide him an opportunity to explain his views on animal rights as well as the second amendment. since his original hearing, professor sunstein has met with people involved in agriculture,

Saxby Chambliss

9:46:10 to 9:46:31( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: including the american farm bureau federation, the farm animal welfare coalition, the national pork and the unid egg producers. he has heard their point of view and exactly how devastating some of his theorizing would be to the reality of earning a living in rural america. he has satisfied some of them

Saxby Chambliss

9:46:32 to 9:46:53( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: and some are still decidedly wary of his ideas. i've also had the meet personally with professor sunstein to let him explain how detrimental his theories would be to those who work so hard to

Saxby Chambliss

9:46:54 to 9:47:14( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: feed this country and to obtain assurances that he does not oppose hunting or the right to bear arms and that he really -- try to figure out what he meant by saying have the right to sue individuals. and let me say that professor sunstein comes highly recommended by a number of folks

Saxby Chambliss

9:47:15 to 9:47:35( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: from the skefrbgt side of the philosophical divide -- the conservative side of the philosophical divide in this country. his ability to look at regulatory measures and to provide veryntriguing and he is obviously a very, very competent person when it comes to that side of the business community,

Saxby Chambliss

9:47:36 to 9:47:56( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: and i have a great appreciation for that. i had a very good meeting with professor sunstein yesterday. and after our meeting, i received a letter from professor sunstein wherein he explained some of his statements and inflammatory ideas. in that letter he stated that he would not take any steps to promote litation on behalf of

Saxby Chambliss

9:47:57 to 9:48:18( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: animals and federal law does not create an individual right to bring lawsuits on behalf of animals against agriculture. he also stated that he believes the second amendment creates an individual right to possess guns for purposes of both hunting and self-defense. and at this time, mr. president, i would ask unanimous consent that the letter to me from

Saxby Chambliss

9:48:19 to 9:48:40( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: mr. -- profess july 14, 2009, be entered in the record. the presiding officer: without objection. nominees deserve a fair hearing by the united states senate, a professor sunstein is no different. while i cannot agree with his ideas, his legal theories or his views, now that he has been educated about the toll they

Saxby Chambliss

9:48:41 to 9:49:01( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: would take on hard-working farmers and ranchers in america, i'm not going to keep him from any further consideration, and i intend to lift my hold on professor sunstein. i understand from professor sunstein now that he has a much better understanding of animal agriculture and our country's

Saxby Chambliss

9:49:02 to 9:49:17( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: sporting tradition. i'm optimistic this open dialogue with will continue, and obviously i look forward to working with him to ensure that he continues to rry out exactly what he stated

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