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Senate Proceeding on Aug 1st, 2007 :: 7:10:01 to 7:36:59
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Patty Murray

7:09:48 to 7:10:01( Edit History Discussion )

Patty Murray: money from fiscally responsible states like alabama, some states that have expanded their programs beyond the scope of the original program have asked the government to bail out -- to bail them out

Orrin Hatch

7:10:01 to 7:10:17( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: with new money. in other words, there's not enough leftover money. not enough leftover money now that you can scoop up from frying l states like alabama -- from frugal states like alabama to take

Orrin Hatch

7:10:17 to 7:10:30( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: care of their spending. so now they're demanding more money to do whatever they want to do. it is a classical example of an out-of-control federal program running amok. that's not goodth policy. five states

Orrin Hatch

7:10:30 to 7:10:45( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: have taken 83% of federal bailout funding for 2006 hfer 2007. 14 states receive part of this funding. this is extra money that's left over. only five states have gobbled up 83% of the unallocate

Orrin Hatch

7:10:45 to 7:10:56( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: ed funds. 14 states receive part of this funding but out of $720 million, illinois received $237 million. new jersey $164 million. rhode island, small rhode island island, $84 million, high-income

Orrin Hatch

7:10:56 to 7:11:05( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: state that is. and maryland $31 million. and massachusetts, $77 million. so it's the high-benefit, high- high-tax states that are sucking up money out of the fund, and they want more and more. and

Orrin Hatch

7:11:05 to 7:11:22( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: this bill does not deal with that. the bill only worse ens the problem of states who are over overspending, as it creates a contingency fund. now, the contingency fund is specifically designed to provide

Orrin Hatch

7:11:22 to 7:11:37( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: this additional funding to state states that run out of money, because they've covered too much much, and there's not notch enough federal match money for thesm i think we better name this contingency fund,

Orrin Hatch

7:11:37 to 7:11:50( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: the fund -- the federal fund to encourage schip overspending. maybe that would be the right title for it. as secretary leavitt has said, this section indicates that either the allocation formulas that

Orrin Hatch

7:11:50 to 7:12:04( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: determine how much money states get are wildly inaccurate or we really do just -- we just want states to overspend. it seems like that's our goal. and that's why people are suggesting that this

Orrin Hatch

7:12:04 to 7:12:14( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: is a subtle way to have the federal government take over a larger and larger portion of the health care in america. a further example of bad schip policy is providing infrastructure for states to develop

Orrin Hatch

7:12:14 to 7:12:23( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: universal health care. many states like pennsylvania and vermont have already begun to have a universal health care program, and i just think it is unfair to tax people in the frugal states to

Orrin Hatch

7:12:23 to 7:12:33( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: pay for rich health care plans for the wealth wealthy in other states. that's just not a good policy, i think. about 4r5% of american children are currently enrolled in medicaid or schip, though only 37% are

Orrin Hatch

7:12:33 to 7:12:48( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: in families earning less than 200% of the federal poverty level. only 37 state of those enrolled -- only 37% of those enrolled operate below 200% of poverty. c.b.o. estimates that about half of new schip

Orrin Hatch

7:12:48 to 7:13:02( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: enrollees from this legislation now have private insurance. my question is, why would we spend taxpayers' money to en ensure people who are already insured? this bill would decrease private health insurance

Orrin Hatch

7:13:02 to 7:13:13( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: coverage, i would think. it would encourage people to leave their plans. it seeks to take kids away from the private coverage and meef move them to government-run health care. parents would be

Orrin Hatch

7:13:13 to 7:13:31( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: financially motivated to take their children off of private -- usually employer-sponsored plans -- and put them on taxpayer-supported plans. these children now must be supported by the taxpayers where whereas

Orrin Hatch

7:13:31 to 7:13:42( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: before they were covered by their own private insurance plan. a recent report by c.b.o. estimates that schip has reduced the uninsured in the target population -- those we wanted to reach who were uninsured,

Orrin Hatch

7:13:42 to 7:13:52( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: low-income children -- by only 25%. that's the c.b.o. saying that target group that was uninsured, low-income children, it has reduced these uninsured by only 25%. and i think this is because a lot of

Orrin Hatch

7:13:52 to 7:14:04( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: children -- and in many states adults -- now in schip are people who use ed to be an private health plans.~ between 50% and 75% of medicaid expansion funds in the 1990's was spent on people who would

Orrin Hatch

7:14:04 to 7:14:16( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: have been privately insured according to the economist jonathan gruber. i don't know if it is accurate. but he said between 50% and 75% of medicaid funds was spent on people who would have been

Orrin Hatch

7:14:16 to 7:14:25( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: privately insured. one study found 60% of the children who became eligible for schip had private coverage in the year before the schip plan began. now, that's a stunning number. 60% of the children who

Orrin Hatch

7:14:25 to 7:14:43( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: became eligible for schip had -- had -- private insurance the year before. c.b.o. found that among newly eligible populations, the higher-income families that will be covered by this bill, one child

Orrin Hatch

7:14:43 to 7:14:55( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: will drop private coverage for every child that is enrolled in the public program. that's a stunning number. overall, for every 100 children that this bill would enroll in schip, 50 of those children

Orrin Hatch

7:14:55 to 7:15:09( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: would come from private insurance. so half of the children that we're going to be covering will be coming from private insurance plans. i don't think that's good policy. it's just not good policy,

Orrin Hatch

7:15:09 to 7:15:19( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: unless it is your goal to diminish private insurance and further take over the private sector with federal plans. so these are conservative estimates since the studies fail to calculate the crowd-out effect

Orrin Hatch

7:15:19 to 7:15:33( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: for adults who switch to government plans. a recent study -- a senator: would the senator yield for a question? mr. sessions: i would be pleased. mr. baucus: this question is designed to help senators

Orrin Hatch

7:15:33 to 7:15:45( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: have more information about the basic last point the senator is talking about. that is the so-called crowd-out, which, as the senator stated, is people on private health insurance leaving private health

Orrin Hatch

7:15:45 to 7:16:10( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: insurers to go to the program that the congress may have enacted. does the senator have any idea -- i found this very interesting -- when the congress passed the medicaid modernization act which

Orrin Hatch

7:16:10 to 7:16:27( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: included part-d drug benefits -- i don't know if the senator voted for that bill or not. i assume the senator did vote for that bill. does the senator know at that time what the so-called crowd-out

Orrin Hatch

7:16:27 to 7:16:39( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: was? maybe i can put it this way, does the senator know what percent of people at that time were on private health insurance that thought would probably move -- on private health insurance that might then

Orrin Hatch

7:16:39 to 7:16:52( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: go to arogram offered from private health insurance? does the senator have any idea -- i'm not saying the senator should know -- does the senator know what was estimated at that time we passed that

Orrin Hatch

7:16:52 to 7:17:06( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: bill, what the crowd-out would be? mr. sessions: responding to the senator's question, that you as one of the excellent crafters that have bill, which i did support, did create provisions to minimize

Orrin Hatch

7:17:06 to 7:17:19( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: that and deliberately took steps to reduce the amount of crowdover that would occur. but i'm sure some has occurred. of course there was a feeling and an observation on that from the beginning that

Orrin Hatch

7:17:19 to 7:17:36( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: this was, you know, a trend in the country. mr. baucus: does the senator know there's no real official conclusion of what the actual crowdout's been, but does the senator know that the basic unofficial

Orrin Hatch

7:17:36 to 7:17:50( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: statistic is about 66%, about 66% crowd-out under the medicare modernization act. mr. sessions: i'm not aware of that. i know my mother didn't have any, and she was glad to get the prescription drug provision.

Orrin Hatch

7:17:50 to 7:18:04( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: mr. baucus: i want to ask another question. does the senator know what the anticipated crowd-out was when the children's health program was original enacted in 1997? what was the original crowd-out then

Orrin Hatch

7:18:04 to 7:18:21( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: when we passed this bill in 1997? mr. sessions: i'm curious. i don't know. mr. baucus: about 40%. does the senator know what the actual experience has been? mr. sessions: i do not. mr. baucus: between

Orrin Hatch

7:18:21 to 7:18:35( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: 25% and i think it's 50% is the best numbers we can get. does the senator also know that when -- mr. sessions: so that's not much -- mr. baucus: between 25% and 50%. mr. sessions: i was pretty close

Orrin Hatch

7:18:35 to 7:18:46( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: to the estimate. mr. baucus: you're close. does the senator also know that we wrote this bill, that we asked the c.b.o. director, peter orzag to tell us in the finance committee to tell us what

Orrin Hatch

7:18:46 to 7:18:58( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: twaoef do to minimize this phenomenon of crowd-out? of course the senator doesn't know we asked him. does the senator also know when we asked peter orzag during the markup, were we extremely efficient,

Orrin Hatch

7:18:58 to 7:19:16( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: does the senator know mr. orzag said, yes, it was extremely efficient and would minimize the crowd-out as much as we possibly could. mr. sessions: i would respond by asking this question: if we have crowded

Orrin Hatch

7:19:16 to 7:19:36( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: out, and crowd out prescription drug coverage for seniors, we crowd out private insurance in the medicaid area for low-income people, if we crowd out income, medicare in general, and if we now crowd

Orrin Hatch

7:19:36 to 7:19:53( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: out more children and even adults under a children plan, who's going to be left in private coverage? mr. baucus: let me ask that question by asking this question in return: would the senator want even more

Orrin Hatch

7:19:53 to 7:20:03( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: crowd-out under a different approach? and all experts say that if we try to address more coverage for low-income kids through private coverage, the crowd-out would be even greater. would the senator

Orrin Hatch

7:20:03 to 7:20:12( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: want that greater crowd-out to occur? mr. sessions: i think if -- i would respond with this question: isn't it true if you're at 400% of poverty or 350% or 300% of poverty, you're going to crowd out

Orrin Hatch

7:20:12 to 7:20:24( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: more people with insurance than if you're actually taking care of poor people who are less likely to have insurance? mr. baucus: in response to the senator, i've forgotten the exact statistic. intuitively

Orrin Hatch

7:20:24 to 7:20:38( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: the answer would be the answer that the senator is suggesting. but actually the fact is that -- as we've established earlier, no state has 400% of poverty. no state does today. no state does. no state

Orrin Hatch

7:20:38 to 7:20:52( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: does. but for those states above 300%, actually it's kids that are actually covered, the greatest preponderance of kids that are covered are still low-income kids. i might say today, for example, of all

Orrin Hatch

7:20:52 to 7:21:08( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: the beneficiaries todayened the children's health insurance program today -- today under the children's health insurance program today, 91% are children at or below 200% of poverty. this program is for

Orrin Hatch

7:21:08 to 7:21:25( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: kids. and i know all this concern about adults -- and i share the senator's concern about adults. i share it very strongly. and we worked very hard on this bill to cut down adults, as the senator

Orrin Hatch

7:21:25 to 7:21:37( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: knows. childless adults are phased out after two years, and parents get a lower rate. the third category of adults, pregnant women, there is a state option for pregnant women. but the biggest concern

Orrin Hatch

7:21:37 to 7:21:53( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: i'm sure, the senator from alabama, is childless adults. this is supposed to be a kids' program. it is not an adult program. we say, okay, after two years you're off. the senator also knows that back

Orrin Hatch

7:21:53 to 7:22:07( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: with the deficit-reduction act, when that was passed, we prevented h.h.s. from granting any waivers for childless adults in the future. mr. sessions: i thank the distinguished chairman for his insight;

Orrin Hatch

7:22:07 to 7:22:24( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: a good dialogue. i would just go back, i guess, fundamentally to the remarks i made at the beginning. our present system is not working well. i believe a simpler system, if taken as part of the idea of

Orrin Hatch

7:22:24 to 7:22:34( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: equalizing tax deductions and tax credits for all americans based on income, and it would require spending from the government to do that, if we did that in an effective way, that every person could

Orrin Hatch

7:22:34 to 7:22:47( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: then choose their own insurance policy covering themselves as they wish, i think would be a far preferable way than taking a children's program and allowing it to continue to expand in a significant way.

Orrin Hatch

7:22:47 to 7:22:58( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: i don't think it's in doubt. c.b.o. has scored that for every child that's in this bill, that would be enrolled in schip, 50 of those children would come from private insurance coverage. so that's a

Orrin Hatch

7:22:58 to 7:23:09( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: conservative estimate, and it's a big deal. 50% of the people that would be picked up under this plan come from families that they're already covered. the national bureau of economic research, an independent

Orrin Hatch

7:23:09 to 7:23:18( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: tkpwraourpbgs estimates that crowd -- group, estimates the crowd-outrate to be as high as 60%. of ten million people about 50% of children with families 200% below the poverty line do have insurance. some

Orrin Hatch

7:23:18 to 7:23:32( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: still do, even in the lowest income group. and we would normally expect and do expect that higher income levels would have higher crowd-out effects. in fact, c.b.o., our own congressional budget

Orrin Hatch

7:23:32 to 7:23:46( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: office, the one we have to rely on for information, estimates 77% of the children in families at 200% to 300% of the poverty level already have private coverage. how about that? 89% of children in

Orrin Hatch

7:23:46 to 7:23:59( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: families with incomes between 300% and 400% have private coverage, as do 90% of children in families above the federal poverty level, according to our own congressional budget office, which i assume

Orrin Hatch

7:23:59 to 7:24:15( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: our distinguished chairman does not agree with. i mean doesn't dispute those numbers. so our goal should not be to take insurance away, i think. madam president, i would just conclude -- i know others

Orrin Hatch

7:24:15 to 7:24:30( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: are here prepared to speak -- i've enjoyed the dialogue. i'm not comfortable with the way we're taking care of children and the way we're taking care of adults and the way we are deing with a broken

Orrin Hatch

7:24:30 to 7:24:45( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: federal policy with regard to the uninsured. i was on a task force appointed by former majority leader bill frist, dr. bill frist to deal with the uninsured. we wrestled with it a number of ways. one

Orrin Hatch

7:24:45 to 7:24:55( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: of the ways we had gotten a million people covered was through the association health plan, small business health plans, that, my colleagues on the other side of the aisle managed to pwhrofpblgt now we're

Orrin Hatch

7:24:55 to 7:25:07( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: asking -- managed to block. now we're asking, we're moving more money, more, i guess, new wines in old wine bottles here. i really think we need to break out of this mentality, create a system that

Orrin Hatch

7:25:07 to 7:25:17( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: you own your health insurance policy. you take it with you if you change jobs. and i would note, madam president, that the average american worker has had nine jobs by the time they're 35. likewise,

Orrin Hatch

7:25:17 to 7:25:33( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: we ought to have savings accous that people can take with them whenever they move from job to job and provide as much security and stability and assurance that we can possibly provide the working american

Orrin Hatch

7:25:33 to 7:25:42( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: families today. middle-class families are getting it on both ends here. they are required to pay more taxes, they are not getting the benefits. they are working hard. if they are not in a big company

Orrin Hatch

7:25:42 to 7:25:55( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: or in the government, they are paying more for their health insurance than they should, while others are paying less than they should. so we ought to work on these things. and if we did so, we might

Orrin Hatch

7:25:55 to 7:26:09( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: be surprised just how many people might come on the insured rolls. madam president, i thank the chair and would yield the floor. mr. baucus: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from

Orrin Hatch

7:26:09 to 7:26:21( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: montana. mr. baucus: madam president, i'm not going to belabor this crowd-out issue. and a lot of people watching are probably asking what in the world is crowd-out? and for those who are wondering

Orrin Hatch

7:26:21 to 7:26:39( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: what in the world crowd-out is, what we've been talking about here, it's basically how many people would be, with this legislation or any health legislation it covers, how many people would be crowded

Orrin Hatch

7:26:39 to 7:26:51( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: out their current private health insurance. that is if their on private health insurance today, how many would leave private health insurance and go to the government program? just a couple points

Orrin Hatch

7:26:51 to 7:27:09( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: here. number one, those might be inclined to vote for the mcconnell substitute know this, but actually so-called crowd-out is greater under the mcconnell-lott proposal on a percentage basis you be than

Orrin Hatch

7:27:09 to 7:27:21( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: on the underlying bill. more people would be leaving private health insurance to go into the children's health insurance program. second, the figures we hear is one to one. that's not accurate. it's selective

Orrin Hatch

7:27:21 to 7:27:32( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: use of the tables. if you look at the real fact, at the bottom line under c.b.o.'s estimates, they actually say it's more in the neighborhood of -- it's not 50% as represented here, but actually it's about

Orrin Hatch

7:27:32 to 7:27:42( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: 30%. also it's been represented here that maybe under tax credits, which is a better way to go to cover health insurance, the implication here is there would be less crowd-out. well, i may just point out

Orrin Hatch

7:27:42 to 7:27:55( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: there is a fellow named john gruber, m.i.t. professor, a health economist, he is often quoted by the president.~ he is often quoted by president bush. what is professor grouper saying? he says that

Orrin Hatch

7:27:55 to 7:28:08( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: tax credit crowd-out in his estimate is 77% -- much higher. for those concerned about so-called crowd-out i would think they would like the underlying bill because there is less crowd-out in the

Orrin Hatch

7:28:08 to 7:28:24( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: underlining bill than in the substitute or mcconnell lott amendment and much less than would be the case of the tax credit approach to help low-income kids. i think the record should show that so

Orrin Hatch

7:28:24 to 7:28:44( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: senators have full information of those watching this debate, wherever they may be, also have the facts before them. madam president, i suggest that the chair recognize the senator from washington, senator

Orrin Hatch

7:28:44 to 7:28:55( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: murray who has been patiently waiting to address the senate. the presiding officer: the senator from washington. mrs. murray: thank you, madam president. all children should be able to see a doctor

Orrin Hatch

7:28:55 to 7:29:06( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: when they're sick. and all 13 should be able to get the medicine they need to make them better pts when a kid gets a cut or requires stitches or coming down with a fever or ear ache or any problem

Orrin Hatch

7:29:06 to 7:29:15( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: they should be able to get help. heard. unfortunately, today in america the richest and most successful country ever, it's not the case. in fact, madam president, millions of american children do

Orrin Hatch

7:29:15 to 7:29:25( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: not have health insurance today which means millions of american children can't see a dtor when they're sick and millions of american children don't get the medicine they need to get better. as wages

Orrin Hatch

7:29:25 to 7:29:40( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: remain stagnant and the cost of living -- heat, food, clothing, college tuition, doctors' visits -- increases, more and more parents today are unable to afford health care and the ranks of uninsured

Orrin Hatch

7:29:40 to 7:29:57( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: children is growing. this tragedy can only be described as a haim shame and it is unquestionably our moral obligation as americans to correct this. it doesn't matter if you are republican or a democrat,

Orrin Hatch

7:29:57 to 7:30:12( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: a progressive or a conservative. making sure that our children get health care is the moral thing to do. now, madam president, most of us in the senate know this and we are working now to do the moral

Orrin Hatch

7:30:12 to 7:30:27( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: thing. support reauthorize and improving the children's health insurance program or chip which takes massive steps forward giving our kids better health insurance in this country. this bill will ensure that

Orrin Hatch

7:30:27 to 7:30:41( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: the 6.6 million children who are enrolled in chip continue receiving care and it provides 3.2 million uninsured children with coverage. as a result, over the next five years, the number of uninsured children

Orrin Hatch

7:30:41 to 7:30:55( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: in america will drop by more than a third. madam president, it also strengthens the program by increasing funding for states that need the most help. if recent years under president bush's watch, many

Orrin Hatch

7:30:55 to 7:31:13( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: of our states have faced funding shortfalls jeopardizing the coverage of countless children. this bill also provides an emergency fund to cover unexpected shortfalls arising from economic downturns of

Orrin Hatch

7:31:13 to 7:31:28( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: emergencies. in fact, the c.b.o. which is a nonpartisan group of experts, predicts that 800,000 children now covered by chip or children's health insurance program will lose coverage over the next five years

Orrin Hatch

7:31:28 to 7:31:40( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: unless there is an increase in funding above the base amount required. this legislation that's before the senate today provides 100 million, as well, for outreach and enrollment efforts that increase the participation

Orrin Hatch

7:31:40 to 7:31:51( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: of children in this children's health insurance program. and it includes a national campaign to help raise awareness of the children's health insurance program and the targeting of our children in treasure

Orrin Hatch

7:31:51 to 7:32:07( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: areas with high population of eligible but unenrolled children today. another outreach effort will provide funds for translation and interpretation services for chip so minority children, especially native americans

Orrin Hatch

7:32:07 to 7:32:28( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: and hispanics, will become more aware of this program. and finally, this authorization plan provides my home state of washington with the funding and flexibility we need to provide more children with

Orrin Hatch

7:32:28 to 7:32:44( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: quality health care. this bill is a big win-within for washington -- a bigwin-win for washington and the state. the money for this inive $35 billion over five years coming solely from an excise tax

Orrin Hatch

7:32:44 to 7:32:59( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: increase on cigarettes and other tobacco products. no other programs are cut. social security is not raided. the deficit will not be increased. and thought only will this bill provide millions of american

Orrin Hatch

7:32:59 to 7:33:16( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: children with health care but it is estimated it will leave 1.8 million adult smokers to quit smoke causing a 9.2% decline in youth smoking and prevent over 1.8 million kids from becoming smokers.

Orrin Hatch

7:33:16 to 7:33:30( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: so, when you provide health care to millions of children and lead millions of young people to stop smoking or to infer pick up a cigarette, madam president, i think this bill is a win-win for our country

Orrin Hatch

7:33:30 to 7:33:42( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: and for our children children. madam president, i think it's very important that i thatch my -- that i thank my colleague, senator max baucus. without his determination we would not be so close to

Orrin Hatch

7:33:42 to 7:33:50( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: providing more of our kids with health care. it's also important to note this bill is bipartisan. senator grassley has worked very hard along with senator baucus in creating this legislation. it

Orrin Hatch

7:33:50 to 7:34:11( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: was passed out of committee on a commendable bipartisan basis. another big supporter of this bill on the floor has been senator hatch who is as do cosponsor of the original 1997 bill. he said recently we

Orrin Hatch

7:34:11 to 7:34:27( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: are trying to do what is right by our children who are currently not being helped by our health care system. if we cover children properly we will save billions of dollars in the long run. even

Orrin Hatch

7:34:27 to 7:34:37( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: if we didn't, we should still take care of these children. madam president, senators grassley and hatch aren't alone on their side of the aisle. many of our colleagues realize that supporting this

Orrin Hatch

7:34:37 to 7:34:48( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: legislation is the moral thing to do. unfortunately, however, president bush doesn't agree and he has, amazingly, threatened to veto this bill. now, he's going to be out there giving his reasons for the

Orrin Hatch

7:34:48 to 7:34:57( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: veto. he's going to be making complicated arguments and throwing numbers around but the bottom line, the moral line, vetoing this bill will endanger coverage for millions of children who are currently

Orrin Hatch

7:34:57 to 7:35:12( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: enrolled in our children's health insurance program and a veto will denies millions of kids who would become covered under the bill a chance to see a doctor when they're sick. it seems, sadly, the

Orrin Hatch

7:35:12 to 7:35:26( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: moral light president bush says guides his decisions has dimmed. madam president, i want to share the following story with president bush and with any senators who might be thinking about voting against

Orrin Hatch

7:35:26 to 7:35:37( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: this bill. this is sydney. sydney and her mom, sandy, live in washington, my home state. sydney has cystic fibrosis. sydney's mom recently wrote to me talking about her daughter and the importance of the

Orrin Hatch

7:35:37 to 7:35:53( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: children's health insurance program which allowed sydney to get the care she need which extended her life and allowed her to live her short life to the fullest. she wrote to me and i want to read

Orrin Hatch

7:35:53 to 7:36:10( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: to you what she said. this is her words: "my daughter has a life shortening genetic condition called cystic fibrosis. with quality health care, i believe her life has been extended and she has been

Orrin Hatch

7:36:10 to 7:36:21( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: enable to enjoy nine years of quality life. of course, she spent many weeks in the hospital on life-saving i.v. antibiotics during the nine years and not a day goes by she don't have to endure taking

Orrin Hatch

7:36:21 to 7:36:35( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: a bucket full of ms but ms but she is a happy child living life to the fullest. she is active. does well in school and loves to sing and dance. however, none of that would be possible if it wasn't

Orrin Hatch

7:36:35 to 7:36:45( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: for the quality health care she received as part of chip health care. i know for a fact that without this bit of assistance her life would end much sooner due to the inability to afford quality

Orrin Hatch

7:36:45 to 7:36:59( Edit History Discussion )

Orrin Hatch: health care for her. as her parent, it frightens me to even think some day she may be without health care coverage if programs like chip are no longer available. i write to ask you to reauthorize

Max Baucus

7:36:59 to 7:37:12( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: the children's health insurance program and ensure the program is adequately funded to to provide high-quality health care for children with cystic fibrosis." madam president, i hope president bush and

Max Baucus

7:36:59 to 7:38:01( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Max Baucus

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