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Senate Proceeding on Sep 19th, 2007 :: 3:15:48 to 3:25:47
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John McCain

3:14:15 to 3:15:48( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: John McCain

John McCain

3:15:35 to 3:15:48( Edit History Discussion )

John McCain: experiences in the military, i'm glad to talk about them, but i know they're limited and i know how far they should go. not very. as a jag colonel, i can't tell you how to deploy troops. i don't

Lindsey Graham

3:15:48 to 3:16:02( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: know. that's out of my lane. and i've got to make a decision as a senator, when a general comes, senator mccain, does it make sense to me. i would not advise any member of this body to follow a four-star

Lindsey Graham

3:15:48 to 3:25:47( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Lindsey Graham

Lindsey Graham

3:16:02 to 3:16:13( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: general's recommendation just because of the number of stars. but here what i would advise the members of this body to do. listen to what the general says. use your own common sense. go in theater

Lindsey Graham

3:16:13 to 3:16:26( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: and see if it makes sense. for three and a half years, my friend, we went to iraq, and we were told by the generals in the old strategy, things were fine. at about the third trip with you, senator mccain,

Lindsey Graham

3:16:26 to 3:16:40( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: we were in a tank. and i'm a lawyer, so i don't understand military deployments and how to deploy combat troops. but i can tell you this from a lawyer's perspective and from good old south carolina

Lindsey Graham

3:16:40 to 3:16:52( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: common sense, after the third visit in iraq, if you thought things were tkpwergt better -- getting better, you were crazy. we all blame it on the republican side. the media doesn't tell the story right.

Lindsey Graham

3:16:52 to 3:17:04( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: it wasn't the media's fault. we were losing operational control of iraq because we didn't have enough troops. and you could see it if you wanted to look. now if you were blinded by the partisanship

Lindsey Graham

3:17:04 to 3:17:20( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: that exists in this building, you find some other group to blame it on. but it was there to be seen. i have been seven times, twicece in uniform, working on issues where i think i have a little bit

Lindsey Graham

3:17:20 to 3:17:36( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: to offer. and my contribution is insignificant, inconsequential, but i am honored to have been allowed to go because i am cheering people who are over there and i'm still in uniform. and i wish i

Lindsey Graham

3:17:36 to 3:17:51( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: could stay over there longer, because i feel an obligation to do so. here's the morale as i see it this time around, senator mccain. a year ago i was in iraq -- maybe a little bit longer -- sitting

Lindsey Graham

3:17:51 to 3:18:02( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: at lunch. across the table was a sergeant. and i asked him, sergeant, how it's going: he said, senator, i feel like i'm driving around waiting to get shot. not going very well. this last tour, when i

Lindsey Graham

3:18:02 to 3:18:15( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: was there for 11 days, i got to have three meals day there in baghdad. met all kind of folks with all different missions, all different responsibilities, combat guys coming in from the field, sat down

Lindsey Graham

3:18:15 to 3:18:26( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: with them every night. how's it going? colonel, we're caking their -- kicking their ass. morale is high because of the new strategy and the new general. they're out from behind the walls. they're

Lindsey Graham

3:18:26 to 3:18:43( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: out in the fields. they're living with the iraqi troops. the army's getting better. al qaeda's been diminished. and when you go talk to the marines in anbar, they will tell you with a great sense of

Lindsey Graham

3:18:43 to 3:18:56( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: pride, look at what we did here. and for us politicians to deny what they did, as i think -- is i think an insult to their hard work. they liberated anbar province because there were enough of

Lindsey Graham

3:18:56 to 3:19:11( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: them this time around to join up with the sunnis and anbar to make a difference and drive out al qaeda. this new strategy, which everybody has been asking for something new for a long time, is working, senator

Lindsey Graham

3:19:11 to 3:19:24( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: mccain. it is working. there are areas in iraq, as you described before, that are now liberated from a vicious enemy. all the rule of law front. judges have a level of security because of the surge

Lindsey Graham

3:19:24 to 3:19:36( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: they've never known before. the first thing that general petraeus did when he went in theater is create a rule of law green zone for judges. we've taken old iraqi army base and build housing -- built

Lindsey Graham

3:19:36 to 3:19:51( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: housing for judges and created a perimeter security around that complex. we have a jail inside that complex. we have judge housing, a brand-new courtroom, a police station so that the judges can implement

Lindsey Graham

3:19:51 to 3:20:04( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: the law without fear of assassination. i have never seen such growth in an area as i have the rule of law since the surge began. the judges now are able to do their job without their families being

Lindsey Graham

3:20:04 to 3:20:16( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: assassinated. and we've seen dramatic improvement. let me give you two examples. there was a shia police captain accused of torturing sunnis at the place station he was in charge of. -- at the police

Lindsey Graham

3:20:16 to 3:20:30( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: station he was in charge of. he is nows facing a long-term prison sentenc e because the iraqi legal system didn't listen to the fact that he was a shia and the people he abused was a sunni. they gave

Lindsey Graham

3:20:30 to 3:20:44( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: a verdict based on what he did, not who he did it to. it is sweeping the whole legal system. judges are going into areas that al qaeda operated from just months ago rendering justice not based on what

Lindsey Graham

3:20:44 to 3:20:59( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: sect you come from, but based on what the person was accused of. i witnessed a trial downtown baghdad where two people of the three were shia police officers in the iraqi police force. there was a

Lindsey Graham

3:20:59 to 3:21:16( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: raid on the house they were living in by the american forces. coalition troops were the only witnesses, and these two defendants were in a house full of i.e.d. material, rocket grenades, explosive devices

Lindsey Graham

3:21:16 to 3:21:34( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: that were meant to kill americans. the defense was who are you going to believe, us or the invader? the lawyers in the trial looked at the judge in the eye and started citing one verse of the koran after

Lindsey Graham

3:21:34 to 3:21:43( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: another to tell the judge he had a duty to stand by, beside his muslim brother and reject the testimony of t inif he dell. -- of the infidel. i was there. i saw it. the three judges conducted

Lindsey Graham

3:21:43 to 3:21:55( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: a trial that everybody who witnessed the trial would have been proud of. they asked hard questions. they separated the defendants. rather than list to think dictates from the koran coming out of the mouth

Lindsey Graham

3:21:55 to 3:22:17( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: of their lawyer, they asked questions about how they were in the house, how could they not have known the weapons were there. and they did a great job proving these guys were lying through their

Lindsey Graham

3:22:17 to 3:22:27( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: teeth. they reconvened. they get convicted. six years in jail. there is progress going on in iraq. there are people in iraq who are bigger than sectarian differences. there are judges, there are lawyers,

Lindsey Graham

3:22:27 to 3:22:43( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: there are average, everyday people that are risking their lives to make their country better. and one of the biggest problems they have had is that we screwed up early on and let security get out

Lindsey Graham

3:22:43 to 3:22:58( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: of hand. with better security, people are beginning to engage in a way i've never seen before. and this idea of pulling back now, of reducing our military footprint at a time that we made a real

Lindsey Graham

3:22:58 to 3:23:15( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: difference is so disheartening to the troops. they are watching what we're doing. i can't tell you, i was stopped every 30 feet, "what are we going to do? is the war going to go on? are they going

Lindsey Graham

3:23:15 to 3:23:31( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: to cut it short?" the people who are doing the fighting want one thing: the ability to finish the job. do they want to come home? yes, god knows they want to be home. are they tired of going over?

Lindsey Graham

3:23:31 to 3:23:46( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: yes. but above all others, they want to win. now, senator mccain, you said you've met people for the third and fourth time. well, nobody stays in this military unless they volunteer to begin with,

Lindsey Graham

3:23:46 to 3:23:58( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: and when their enlistment's up there,'s some stop-loss problems, but there is an end to this war for them. it is an end of their choosing. this force, unlike other forces, chooses when to end the

Lindsey Graham

3:23:58 to 3:24:13( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: war when their enlistment comes. and what they're choosing to do, ladies and gentlemen, we need to understand, they're choosing to reenlist at numbers greater than any other area of the military.

Lindsey Graham

3:24:13 to 3:24:25( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: now why can't this body sit down and think just for a moment what do they see about this war that i don't see? why do they keep leaving their families going to a dangerous place time and time again in

Lindsey Graham

3:24:25 to 3:24:38( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: numbers larger than any other group in the military? you know why they do it, i think? because they interact with the judges that i've just described to you. they see hope. they understand the enemy.

Lindsey Graham

3:24:38 to 3:24:52( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: they know that an enemy that will take a five-year-old child, put that child in front of their parents, douse him with gasoline and set him on fire is an enemy to their family. they understand that

Lindsey Graham

3:24:52 to 3:25:07( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: iran is trying to drive us out of iraq because they want to be stronger. they understand that iran's stronger means they're likely to have to go back to fight a bigger war. so from the troops perspective

Lindsey Graham

3:25:07 to 3:25:21( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: for what it's worth of my view of the troops' perspective, they want to come home. they want a lot of things. but they want, above all others, the chance to win a war they believe they can win and

Lindsey Graham

3:25:21 to 3:25:34( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: we can't afford to lose. i yield. the presiding officer: the senator from georgia. mr. chambliss: mr. president, i would ask unanimous consent that the author of the amendment, senator webb, be recognized,

Lindsey Graham

3:25:34 to 3:25:47( Edit History Discussion )

Lindsey Graham: and that following his comments, that senator warner from virginia be recognized, that senator vitter be recognized and that i follow senator vitter. the presiding officer: is there objection? the senator

Saxby Chambliss

3:25:47 to 3:26:03( Edit History Discussion )

Saxby Chambliss: from arizona mr. mccain: i have to object to the senator from georgia, because if there is a -- i would agree to the unanimous consent. unless there is a person on the other side that wants to speak in

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