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Senate Proceeding on Sep 22nd, 2010 :: 7:05:55 to 7:18:35
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Jon Kyl

7:05:41 to 7:06:02( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: quorum call: a senator: the presiding officer: the senator from idaho. a senator: mr. president, i ask unanimous c quorum call be vitiated. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. risch: thank you, mr. president. mr. president, i come here today on behalf of myself and also on behalf of my colleague, senator

Jon Kyl

7:05:55 to 7:18:35( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Jon Kyl

Jon Kyl

7:06:03 to 7:06:23( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: crapo, from idaho, to introduce the state wolf management act. this act is drawn, aimed at some particular issues that we have in idaho with the management of wolves and that other adjoining states that share idaho's

Jon Kyl

7:06:24 to 7:06:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: boundaries have with the federal government. first of all, i want to thank the governor of the great state of idaho, the honorable butch otter, for his assistance in crafting this bill. i can tell you that governor otter, as the chief executive of

Jon Kyl

7:06:47 to 7:07:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: idaho, his press certificates -- his predecessor, who happens to be yours truly, and my predecessor as governors of the great state of idaho, have all joined in the effort to obtain delisting of the wolf in idaho. that's particular true as we

Jon Kyl

7:07:09 to 7:07:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: attempt to arrest management of this particular species away from the federal government. what the act does is it identifies as a distinct population, a segment of the gray wolf population. specifically, it identifies as

Jon Kyl

7:07:30 to 7:07:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: the specific population, eastern washington and eastern oregon, in which there are few, if any, wolves and the state of montana and the state of idaho, all of those states in which there are a lot of wolves and indeed are too many wolves. first of all, let me say that estimates in 2008, the official

Jon Kyl

7:07:52 to 7:08:14( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: estimates in 2008 for idaho is that there were 846 wolves in idaho with 39 breeding pairs. virtually everyone in the state agrees that that estimate is very low. in the year 2010, again virtually everyone agrees that there are well over 1,000 gray wolves in idaho and well over 39 breeding pair.

Jon Kyl

7:08:15 to 7:08:35( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: now, how did we get to where we are? well, wolves have been gone from the state of idaho and adjoining areas for many, many years. in 1995, someone -- and i can't identify who -- in their infinite wisdom who lived back here on the banks of the potomac

Jon Kyl

7:08:36 to 7:08:57( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: river decided that we in idaho needed wolves again. they were -- the state of idaho was indeed not very happy about the decision. the chief executive of the state, the executive branch of the state, the legislative branch of the state, and the

Jon Kyl

7:08:58 to 7:09:18( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: vast majority of idahoans were absolutely opposed to reintroducing wolves back into the state of idaho. after litigation and after the usual things that you go through, nonetheless, 34 wolves were captured in canada and brought back -- or not brought

Jon Kyl

7:09:19 to 7:09:40( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: back, but brought to the state of idaho and introduced into the state of idaho again against the objections of almost everyone. now, indeed, there was a group of people who did want to see wolves brought to idaho, and

Jon Kyl

7:09:41 to 7:10:01( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: they got their way. to give you a little bit of background as to what happened, we in the state of idaho are very proud of our big game management. under common law in this country and indeed in england, before

Jon Kyl

7:10:02 to 7:10:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: this country, all wild game belonged to the sovereign. and the united states of america is probably surprised to hear that they are not the sovereign. that indeed the states are the sovereign. and as a result of that, over the centuries, the couple of centuries that we've been in existence here as the united

Jon Kyl

7:10:23 to 7:10:45( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: states of america, litigation after litigation has determined that indeed all wildlife in the state belongs to the sovereign, that is the state in which they are located. idaho has a long proud history and culture of hunting and outdoor life.

Jon Kyl

7:10:46 to 7:11:06( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: we have managed our wildlife to the point that we are getting, or had been getting the maximum out of our wildlife for big-game harvest every year. before europeans inhabited idaho, there were very few deer and even less elk.

Jon Kyl

7:11:07 to 7:11:27( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: elk were a plains species. they were not a mountain species. after settlement of the state, the elk were pretty much removed from the plains and took up residence in the mountains, where they've done very well and adapted very well. again, over the years the premier species in idaho as

Jon Kyl

7:11:28 to 7:11:49( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: determined by the people of the state of idaho has been elk. elk is a -- elk are difficult to manage. that is, they're not as easy to manage as deer are. they're not as prolific as tkao efrplt and -- as deer. as a result they require an

Jon Kyl

7:11:50 to 7:12:11( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: intensive management of the species. as a result of that, the state has broken into many different game units for elk, and each of these elk is carefully managed by the fish and game department to determine the birthrate of the elk each year and the survival rate of the winner and the determination of how many elk can be harvested. as a result of that, we've had a

Jon Kyl

7:12:12 to 7:12:33( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: robust population and relatively stable population of elk in the state of idaho. fast forward to 1995. the federal government released its 34 wolves into the state of idaho, and contrary to what some people believed, they're not vegetarians. also contrary to what some

Jon Kyl

7:12:34 to 7:12:55( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: people believe, they need to eat every day. and when they eat, they eat our elk. and as a result of that, there has been considerable tkep -- depriveation on our elk herds. domestic livestock losses are

Jon Kyl

7:12:56 to 7:13:17( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: not large in number unless of course it's your livestock that they're preying on, which a number of us in the livestock business have experienced losses in that regard. back to the elk, we want to continue to manage our elk. we want to continue to manage our deer. indeed, we manage a lot of

Jon Kyl

7:13:18 to 7:13:38( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: big-game species. we manage moose, we manage bear, we manage cats. we manage all big game in the state of idaho and do a pretty decent job of that. layer on top of this the federal government's introduction of these 34 wolves into idaho which

Jon Kyl

7:13:39 to 7:14:00( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: has now exploded into 1,000 wolves which regulation which at the outset were very, very intrusive to the point where you couldn't shoot a wolf even if you found them attacking your livestock; it was unlawful to take a wolf. of course the regulations that were imposed on us by the federal government have

Jon Kyl

7:14:01 to 7:14:22( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: obviously created a considerable amount of animosity and bad blood. what we want at this point is we want the ability to manage the wolves just as we manage every other population of big game and

Jon Kyl

7:14:23 to 7:14:46( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: animal species in idaho. the fact is the wolves are there. they're going to be there. we obviously made the effort at the outset to not have them. we did our best to keep them out, and we lost that fight, and so now we have to accept the fact that they are there. but the fact that they are there

Jon Kyl

7:14:47 to 7:15:07( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: does not mean, we, the sovereign state of idaho, should not have the ability to manage its own game species. recently because the numbers have exploded to the -- to the amount that they have, the -- when i was governor, i pressed the u.s. fish an wildlife service -- and wildlife service

Jon Kyl

7:15:08 to 7:15:29( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: to start the delisting process which happened on my watch -- start of the delisting started on my watch as governor. as time went on my successor did a successful job of continuing to press the case for the delisting. afterall, the federal government has no business in the state of idaho dealing with the wolves

Jon Kyl

7:15:30 to 7:15:51( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: other than the hook it has on the endangered species act. to argue that a species when you introduce 34 individuals explodes to well over 1,000 is endangered simply flies not only in the face of science, but it also flies in the face of logic. now let me tell you what we were told and what we were promised

Jon Kyl

7:15:52 to 7:16:12( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: by the state of idaho -- or excuse me -- by the federal government by the time they brought the wolves in. and that is they told us once we got to the point of 300 wolves and got to point of 30 breeding pairs, the party was over and they would be -- delist. we reached that point in three years and we've been trying to

Jon Kyl

7:16:13 to 7:16:35( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: delist ever since. we got them delisted, matter went to court. we had a hunting season last year, and now it's gone back to court and those that are trying to protect the number of wolves to great disadvantage of elk won again and they got the judge to order that the wolves be listed again in idaho and montana.

Jon Kyl

7:16:36 to 7:16:57( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: now that is as a result of a dispute that state of wyoming also -- also has with the federal government and they have been unable to reach an agreement as to how wolves should be managed. the the federal government, the fish and wildlife, department of interior, was perfectly happy with the plans from idaho an montana, because they've been unable to settle with wyoming we

Jon Kyl

7:16:58 to 7:17:20( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: find ourselves at a tremendous disadvantage. this simply isn't fair. this bill will very simply turn management of the wolves back over to state of unless an until the time that the -- and until the time that the federal government can again -- or can ever claim that they're an endangered species.

Jon Kyl

7:17:21 to 7:17:41( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: when that happens, the state, again, will be subject to the lawsuits that will inevitably come if -- if indeed, they are endangered. in the mean time i'm going to urge every senator to vote for a bill. this is a state's right issue. we are a sovereign state. we are entitled to take over management of these wolves and i

Jon Kyl

7:17:42 to 7:18:03( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: can promise everyone that the state of idaho will do a substantially better job, a cheaper job, and a much more efficient job of managing the wolves in the state of idaho than the federal government could ever do or will ever do and will be -- we'll be able to do it with due deference to all the other species in the state

Jon Kyl

7:18:04 to 7:18:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: of idaho. with that, mr. presi yield the floor. the presiding officer: the clerk

Jon Kyl

7:18:25 to 7:18:37( Edit History Discussion )

Jon Kyl: will call the roll. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from new hampshire. a senator: mr. president, i ask that the quorum dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mrs. shaheen: thank

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