Senate Proceeding on Nov 16th, 2006 :: 4:28:36 to 4:33:20
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Speech By: Byron Dorgan

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Byron Dorgan: we will not decide today as a united states senate to say that security council resolution 1172 doesn't matter because it's old. it is timeless. it is not old. it is timeless in its position of what we should

4:28:36 to 4:28:51( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: stand for as a country. mr. president, i yield the floor. mr. biden: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from delaware is recognized. mr. biden: i'll be very brief. i -- as i said, i

4:28:36 to 4:33:20( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Joseph Biden

4:28:51 to 4:29:06( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: really admire, respect, and observe the passion of my friend from north dakota on this issue, but i think he's -- the comparisons are not particularly apt. the wing strut the senator has was able

4:29:06 to 4:29:23( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: to be held in his hand because two countries -- the united states and the soviet union -- concluded that it was in their mutual interest to cease and desist and/or significantly reduce the threat each

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Joseph Biden: posed to the other. and they were the only threats that existed, the only threat to the united states because of the nuclear capable when icbm or backfire bomber resided in the soviet union. we tried.

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Joseph Biden: i was the author of, and as a matter of fact there was a south dakota senator named pressler along with john glenn who early on put in legislation relating to sanctions for india. india obviously violated

4:29:55 to 4:30:19( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: those sanctions and did not comply with the u.n. resolution, but there is a reason for that. not a justification, a reason. they looked across their border, north and west and saw two nuclear powers.

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Joseph Biden: one emerging nuclear power, one existing nuclear power. and they concluded rightly or wrongly that they had to be a nuclear power. it is clear nonproliferation does not work in a vacuum. nonproliferation,

4:30:30 to 4:30:42( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: entreatments , requests proddings to a nation that found itself in a situation where they believe they are threatened by a nuclear neighbor have not worked particularly well offering those two examples,

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Joseph Biden: for example. it seems to me what we're attempting to do here is the only route to get to the point where both india and pakistan are part of the nonproliferation treaty. and that is we're trying

4:30:57 to 4:31:13( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: to change the situation, the regional situation on the ground. it's not going to happen through a nonproliferation treaty. it's going to happen through a reproachment between india and pakistan. and

4:31:13 to 4:31:26( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: the idea that we would be able to, through any legislation, prevent india from moving forward to add additional nuclear weapons if they so choose to do that is -- there is no legislation we can pass to

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Joseph Biden: do that. what this legislation does is recognize the reality of the geopolitical situation in the region, set up safeguards to deal with the ability for india to use anything we are doing with them

4:31:40 to 4:31:58( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: to be able to further advance their nuclear capability, give them a new buy-in to an international regime that will have the effect, i believe, of putting pressure on them to move in the direction

4:31:58 to 4:32:18( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: that we in the soviets moved on back when that backfire bomber strut was sawed-off a wing, and that's the route we choose. it is not pretty. it is not -- it is not clear. it is no guarantee. it is

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Joseph Biden: not -- it is not certain to succeed. but i do know one thing. absent this agreement, there is a likelihood that things get worse instead of better beyond what may already occur. and so i appreciate the

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Joseph Biden: senator's comparisons, but i think they're not as apt as they might appear to be because, again, india's motivation in terms of its viewing its need for a nuclear arsenal is not unlike the motivation

4:32:53 to 4:33:03( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: that existed with regard to the united states and the soviet union. and it's going to take a geopolitical settlement of that, not a nuclear arms control agreement he imposing a settlement on india

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Joseph Biden: and pakistan at this moment now that the genie's out of the bottle. but i appreciate my friend's point. i respect his point of view, but i disagree with the best way to move forward. mr. dorgan: mr.

4:33:11 to 4:33:20( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Biden: president? the presiding officer: the senator from north dakota is recognized. mr. dorgan: mr. president, let me respond briefly to that. there is a very big difference between this and the agreement

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Byron Dorgan: we had with the soviet union. in the soviet union agreement, both sides -- the united states and the soviet union -- decided they wished to reduce the number of nuclear weapons and reduce the delivery

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Speech By: Byron Dorgan