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Senate Proceeding on Dec 21st, 2009 :: 1:47:40 to 2:05:45
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Max Baucus

1:47:40 to 1:48:03( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: until 2:30, and there are no individual mrs. hutchison: thank you. thank you, mr. president. mr. president, for weeks, we have been debating legislation that will dramatically and permanently reform our health care industry. it will impact the life of every american and it growing national debt.

Max Baucus

1:47:40 to 2:05:45( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Max Baucus

Max Baucus

1:48:04 to 1:48:26( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: on saturday, the majority leader filed an amendment increasing the size of this bill. early this morning at 1:00 a.m., we had a vote to proceed to the revised bill that makes really a mockery of transparency in public policy. yet even though the majority took the opportunity to amend the bill, it is clear that the concerns of the american people

Max Baucus

1:48:27 to 1:48:50( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: were not heard by my friends on the other side of the aisle. i was astounded to see that this revised bill still contains half a trillion dollars in half a trillion dollars in medicare penalties on businesses and individuals throughout our

Max Baucus

1:48:51 to 1:49:11( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: country in a time when business is struggling, unemployment is up, and families are trying to make ends meet. i want to talk about the taxes. the revised bill has an additional $25 billion in taxes than the bill as introduced.

Max Baucus

1:49:12 to 1:49:32( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: we have been hearing for weeks about families that are struggling to pay their mortgage, struggling to find a job, struggling to pay their utility bills, and yet, what do we find in this new bill? more taxes the american people overwhelmingly oppose this bill, and just when we thought the

Max Baucus

1:49:33 to 1:49:53( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: final product couldn't get any under the revised bill, the taxes collected from individuals that cannot afford health insurance has been raised from from $8 billion to $15 billion, almost double. why? because the penal purchasing insurance has become more severe.

Max Baucus

1:49:54 to 1:50:15( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: now if you cannot afford insurance, the tax is either either $750 or 2% of your taxable income, whiever is higher. there are still taxes that begin next mth, less than two weeks from now. less than two weeks f

Max Baucus

1:50:16 to 1:50:36( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: this bill, $60 billion in taxes on insurance companies will start, except for companies in two particular states. now, that doesn't seem fair. fortunately, the constitution's equal protection clause may have something to say about this

Max Baucus

1:50:37 to 1:50:58( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: gross situation. this will not stand the test of the constitution, i hope, because the deals that have been made to get votes from specific states' senators cannot be considered equal protection under the

Max Baucus

1:50:59 to 1:51:21( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: and if taxes start next -- two weeks from now -- the people who have insurance are going to pay higher premiums, even higher than what has been projected already. in 2011, then we see the taxes on prescription drug manufacturers and medical device manufacturers, so the public can

Max Baucus

1:51:22 to 1:51:42( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: expect medicines and devices, thermometers, blood sugar machines, canes, walkers, the things that people n healthy. that's another $40 billion in taxes. and then there is another round

Max Baucus

1:51:43 to 1:52:04( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: of taxes $149 billion in taxes on high-benefit plans. a by which premiums exceed $8,500 for individuals and $23,000 for families. $87 billion collected from a medicare payroll tax.

Max Baucus

1:52:05 to 1:52:28( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: this tax is actually $33 billion higher than in the prior bill. individuals earning more than than $200,000 and couples earning more than $250,000 are now assessed at a tax rate o 2.35% for a new medicare payroll tax rather than 1.45%.

Max Baucus

1:52:29 to 1:52:50( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: so if you are earning $125,000 each, you have another tax increase. in addition to psibly not having insurance or a hig benefit plan. $15 billion will be raised by raising the threshold for the medical deduction

Max Baucus

1:52:51 to 1:53:11( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: to receive the medical deduction, you must now spend 10% of your income on medical expenses rather than 7.5%. this tax will impact those who have high medical costs or are suffering from chronic illness. this bill taxes those who have

Max Baucus

1:53:12 to 1:53:32( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: insurance and those who don't. all of these taxes are collected. all of the taxes that i had mentioned will be collected before there would be the option that is the purpose bill. whatever the option becomes, it

Max Baucus

1:53:33 to 1:53:55( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: takes effect on 2014. all the taxes that i had mentioned start before senator thune and hi a motio that would have -- and i had a motion that would have sent this bill back to the committee and required that everything in this bill start at the same time, so if the program starts in 2014,

Max Baucus

1:53:56 to 1:54:17( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: the in taxes would be paid before americans are offered the insurance option in the bill. the motion was defeated. now the democrats have their bill and the taxes collected are

Max Baucus

1:54:18 to 1:54:40( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: the previous bill. let's don't forget the penalties to business, business that can't affo to offer health insurance to their employees. a tax of $750 per employee is assessed. now, this is a tim unemployment has reached double digits. we should be encouraging

Max Baucus

1:54:41 to 1:55:03( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: employers to hire more and yet this bill imposes $28 billion in new tes on employers. what will these taxes do to small businesses which create 70% of the new jobs country? in a letter sent to the majority leader yesterday, t business coalition for

Max Baucus

1:55:04 to 1:55:25( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: affordable health care stated with its new taxes, mandates, growth in government programs and overall price tag, the patient protection and affordable care act, the bill that we are discussing costs too much and delivers too little. any potential savings from those reforms are more than outweighed by the new taxes, new mandates,

Max Baucus

1:55:26 to 1:55:47( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: and expensive new government programs included in this bill. that letter is signed in addition to the small business coalition by associations such as the farm bureau, associated builders and associated general contractors of america, the national

Max Baucus

1:55:48 to 1:56:09( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: association of home builders, the national association of manufacturers, the national automobile dealers association, the national retail federation, and more. the national federation of independent business, which is the voice of all business, sent a letter expressing their strong concerns over this bill. it say

Max Baucus

1:56:10 to 1:56:31( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: not do enough to reduce costs for small business owners and eir employees. despite the inclusion of insurance market reforms in the small group and individual marketplaces, the savings that may materialize are too small for too few, and the increase in premium costs are too great for too many.

Max Baucus

1:56:32 to 1:56:52( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: that's how about thealf a trillion dollars in medicare cuts? they are still there. they were they are there now. $120 billion in cuts advantage, which we know reduces

Max Baucus

1:56:53 to 1:57:14( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: choices for senio in my state of texas, over 500,000 currently enrolled enjoy the advantage. that's just in my state alone. millions across the country like seniors without a doubt are

Max Baucus

1:57:15 to 1:57:38( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: going to lose this option. now, one of the points in the new bill is that there were optouts for certain states on medicare advantage's cuts, so some states are going to have the medicare advantage cuts while other states will not.

Max Baucus

1:57:39 to 1:57:59( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: the individual fixes for certain states, presumably to get the votes for certain senators, really, mr. president, does not pass the test of transparency if you put it just doesn't pass the test for fairness, for due process

Max Baucus

1:58:00 to 1:58:21( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: and equal treatment under the law, and it certainly doesn't pass the test forhat is the comprehensive reform legislation. the other health care cuts in medicare would be $186 billion in cuts to nursing homes, home

Max Baucus

1:58:22 to 1:58:43( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: health care, and hospice providers. and then there are the cuts to hospitals. approximately $135 billion in cuts to hospitals. the texas hospital association has estimated that hospitals in my state will suffer almost almost $10 billion in reduced payments. i have a letter from the texas

Max Baucus

1:58:44 to 1:59:05( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: hospital association that outlines their concerns with these cuts and this bill, and they are very concerned. here's one of the quotes from their letter. the texas hospital association says -- "with a significant reduction in payments, hospitals may be forced to reduce medical services. hospitals may be forced to close

Max Baucus

1:59:06 to 1:59:27( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: or merge or severely reduce the services they provide to their communities. essential services such asthma ternity care, emergency services, medical-surgical services or wellness programs may be reduced or eliminated entirely."

Max Baucus

1:59:28 to 1:59:49( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: . president, i know so many -- i've talked to so many hospital administrators and hospital boards, and they are very concerned about the cuts in is bill because they are on very thin margins, most of them, they're struggling, and especially in our rural areas, and they are very worried that

Max Baucus

1:59:50 to 2:00:10( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: there are going to be shutdowns of hospitals throughout our state and but our aging population is growing, so cutting the payments to providers who treat those, whether it is in hospitals or health care providers, doesn't

Max Baucus

2:00:11 to 2:00:32( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: seem to be a medicare. cuts in medicare and especially payments for treating low-income seniors will disproportionately impact rural hospitals, the safety net for health care outside of the metropolitan areas. the

Max Baucus

2:00:33 to 2:00:54( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: and community hospitals which represents 150 rural hospitals in texas said in a letter, "we ar the medicare cuts as proposed could disproportionately hurt rural hospitals, which are the health care safety net for more than 2 million rural texans. because of lower

Max Baucus

2:00:55 to 2:01:16( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: margins medicare patients, rural hospitals will be than urban hospitals by any reductionness reimbursement. these proposed medicare cuts could have a devastating effect that could lead to curtailing of certain services, and the closure of some of these

Max Baucus

2:01:17 to 2:01:37( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: hospitals in texas is a possibility. how could anyone support a reform bill that will result in seniors having torive care they need, care accessible in their own community before this bill took effect."

Max Baucus

2:01:38 to 2:01:58( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: mr. president, what we have here is a bill heavy with tax cuts -- tax hikes, government intrusion. this bill is being forced through congress the christmas because everyone knows that this is not the americans want. the polls are showing that.

Max Baucus

2:01:59 to 2:02:21( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: we all know that polls can have margins of they're not completely accurate. but the trend in the polls clear. it has gone from people thinking that health care reform is a good thing and suprting it in majorities to going

Max Baucus

2:02:22 to 2:02:42( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: the point where the trend is clear. the american people now do not support this bill. they would rather have nothing according to latest polls and have congress start all over and do what they hoped it would do, and that is bring down the cost of health care, not have this big government increase in debt,

Max Baucus

2:02:43 to 2:03:04( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: cuts to medicare and increases on taxes to small business families, especially at this time in our country's economic period. my rublican colleagues and i have tried to offer fiscall responsible alternatives to reform.

Max Baucus

2:03:05 to 2:03:27( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: allowing small businesses to pool together, increase the size of premiums down. if you hav risk pools that it would be fine unless you have so many mandates like we see in this bill that are going to

Max Baucus

2:03:28 to 2:03:48( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: cause the prices to stay up. and even all the taxes on the underlying companies that are providing the health care. creating an online marketplace free from mandates and government interference would be a republican proposal, something that i think would be a point at

Max Baucus

2:03:49 to 2:04:10( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: which we could start having health care reform that would truly effective for america. if you didn't have the mandates that would drive up the cost. offering tax credits to individuals and families that purchase insurance on their own, that's a bill that we have put forward. $5,000 per family would cut the

Max Baucus

2:04:11 to 2:04:31( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: cost and make without any government intervention that would be necessary. and, of course, medical malpractice reform could take $100 billion out of the cost of health care by stopping the frivolous lawsuits or at least limiting them. yet, republicans were really not

Max Baucus

2:04:32 to 2:04:55( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: at the table. the bill was no transparency, no c-span cameras, and no republicans. we did not have input into this bill. that's why it is a partisan bill. that's why the vote last night

Max Baucus

2:04:56 to 2:05:16( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: or this morning at 1:00 a.m. was completely 100% partisan. because why would a republican vote for a bill that goes against every principle that we have: higher taxes, higher mandates and cuts in medicare, and in which we had not

Max Baucus

2:05:17 to 2:05:38( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: amendment pass. we offered amendments, but there were hundreds of amendments left on the table that we were closed out of offering because of the rush to pass this bill before christmas. mr. president, americans asked for reform.

Max Baucus

2:05:39 to 2:05:45( Edit History Discussion )

Max Baucus: they deserve it. this bill is not the reform americans hoped to get from a

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